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Old 10-10-2013, 12:01 PM
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[b]In 2011, Republicans in Congress attempted to use the debt ceiling as leverage for deficit reduction. The delay in raising the debt ceiling led to the first ever downgrade in the federal government's credit rating. The credit downgrade and debt ceiling debacle contributed to the Dow Jones Industrial Average falling 2,000 points in late July and August. Following the downgrade itself, the DJIA had one of its worst days in history and fell 635 points on August 8.[14] The GAO estimated that the delay in raising the debt ceiling raised borrowing costs for the government by $1.3 billion in 2011 and noted that the delay would also raise costs in later years. The Bipartisan Policy Center extended the GAO's estimates and found that the delay raised borrowing costs by $18.9 billion over ten years.[/B]

f***ing brilliant. raised borrowing costs by 18.9 billion.... and of course, those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

any guesses on the next downgrade? what it'll cost? that they only extend by six weeks, so we can keep arguing while solving nothing?
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CNBC reporing OBama rejected offer for stay.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:01 PM
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CNBC reporing OBama rejected offer for stay.
Anyone know what the offer was
Repukes weren't talking after the meeting
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Following talks, President Barack Obama rejected a Republican plan that would postpone a possible U.S. default, because it would not also reopen the federal government.

WASHINGTON — On a day crammed with rising and falling hopes, President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans groped inconclusively Thursday for common ground that could avert an economy-tanking default and possibly end the 10-day-old partial government shutdown.

"We expect further conversations tonight," Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said cryptically at nightfall, after he, Speaker John Boehner and a delegation of House Republicans had met for more than an hour with Obama at the White House.

The White House issued a statement describing the session as a good one, but adding, that "no specific determination was made."

The up-and-down day also featured a dour warning from Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, who told lawmakers that the prospect of default had already caused interest rates to rise — and that worse lay ahead.


http://news.msn.com/us/obama-house-g...utdown-impasse
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The up-and-down day also featured a dour warning from Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, who told lawmakers that the prospect of default had already caused interest rates to rise — and that worse lay ahead.


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Except interest rates are down from a month ago and yesterday the DOW was up over 300 or almost 3%
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Except interest rates are down from a month ago and yesterday the DOW was up over 300 or almost 3%
Dell that is what is called a relief rally but may be a trap.
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