govt shutdown looms

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just talked to a friend of mine, who was about to close on his first home...
yep, it's on hold now. thanks, congress. and this scenario is being repeated thousands of times across this country. what else will be held up, due to a small group of angry republicans, throwing a temper tantrum cause they can't get their way?

The Federal government should not be in the mortgage business. That in part was what got us into the mess we're in.

Banks and mortgage companies are open today. Can't qualify with them it's probably not the right time to buy a home.

Leno made a point last night. Since a third of government is shut down shouldn't taxpayers get a tax refund?

Surely we're not going to pay workers for staying home and doing nothing! Or are we?

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The Federal government should not be in the mortgage business. That in part was what got us into the mess we're in.

Banks and mortgage companies are open today. Can't qualify with them it's probably not the right time to buy a home.

Leno made a point last night. Since a third of government is shut down shouldn't taxpayers get a tax refund?

Surely we're not going to pay workers for staying home and doing nothing! Or are we?

I'll vouch for that..and if the IRS is down, do we still have to pay taxes

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Surely we're not going to pay workers for staying home and doing nothing! Or are we?

You have it backwards. There are a number of gov't employees considered essential who are still required to work, even though they are not getting paid. When the shutdown ends, they may or may not get paid for the work they did during the shutdown. Depends on how Congress feels.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

You have it backwards. There are a number of gov't employees considered essential who are still required to work, even though they are not getting paid. When the shutdown ends, they may or may not get paid for the work they did during the shutdown. Depends on how Congress feels.

Well those at work today and in the future should be paid.

Those that were furloughed and stayed home should not.

And the furloughed fed employees who chose to march in front of the Dirksen Federal Bldg. in Chicago yesterday and today are getting some much needed and long overdue exercise and should be happy for that.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Well those at work today and in the future should be paid.

Those that were furloughed and stayed home should not.

And the furloughed fed employees who chose to march in front of the Dirksen Federal Bldg. in Chicago yesterday and today are getting some much needed and long overdue exercise and should be happy for that.

As long as Congress keeps getting paid all is good.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

As long as Congress keeps getting paid all is good.

how they became 'essential' i don't know.

and who the hell keeps voting in mitch mcconnell??? and lindsey graham for that matter!

[hi_im_god]

one of the more obvious side benefits of this national cluster f is that a weak democratic candidate in the virginia governors race is going to get a free pass to the governorship.

you really couldn't script a better scenario for terry mcauliffe. the virginia republicans change their nominating process to a convention from a primary empowering activists who nominate tea party favorite ken cuccinelli. who now has to explain that he opposes the tea party in congress and that somehow he is different from the national movement. good luck.

virginia is going to be another election that republicans could have won but didn't.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

one of the more obvious side benefits of this national cluster f is that a weak democratic candidate in the virginia governors race is going to get a free pass to the governorship.

you really couldn't script a better scenario for terry mcauliffe. the virginia republicans change their nominating process to a convention from a primary empowering activists who nominate tea party favorite ken cuccinelli. who now has to explain that he opposes the tea party in congress and that somehow he is different from the national movement. good luck.

virginia is going to be another election that republicans could have won but didn't.

And mcauliffe has Mark Warner pitching ads for him..hope you are right, cuccinelli toast..

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

As long as Congress keeps getting paid all is good.

75% of CIA furloughed and 50% of the FBI.. who's got our back!
And the CDC almost half...wtf

[jms62]

Originally Posted by bigrun

75% of CIA furloughed and 50% of the FBI.. who's got our back!
And the CDC almost half...wtf

Demotards need to play this up in the media, how we are vulnerable for an attack. They also need to play the "World Wide Depression" angle if we default. We are after all a nation that basis our conclusions on Sound-Bites and headlines.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Demotards need to play this up in the media, how we are vulnerable for an attack. They also need to play the "World Wide Depression" angle if we default. We are after all a nation that basis our conclusions on Sound-Bites and headlines.

There's a interview in Chicago that's on continuous loop with an old lady saying she paid in SS money her whole life and now congress won't let the President send her the money that's there.

If only she knew the money isn't there, never was and congress needs to raise the debt ceiling so the President can borrow more money to pay her.

Reminds me of the degenerate gambler that goes to the barber to ask for $10 to make a bet. The barber says, 'You already owe me $20'. The gambler responds, 'yea but if I don't get the ten, I can't pay your $20'

We anticipate total tax revenues at $2.7 trillion for 2013. Our budget should be under that. Instead of another jury-rig fix of borrowing more money, let's shut down all non-essential government employees/programs, adjust it to run under $2.7 trillion, raise the debt ceiling and then re-start it. Until then let's pass a 3-month essential spending bill and let congress and the senate to get to work.

It's going to be painful but imagine the pain of interest payments on a trillion dollars times every year infinitely?

If the President thinks his healthcare program is so essential, let him find a trillion that is less important. Stopping billion dollar programs like destroying cars is a start. This guy spends money like a spoiled kid at Chuckie Cheese and gets the same junk in return.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by bigrun

75% of CIA furloughed and 50% of the FBI.. who's got our back!
And the CDC almost half...wtf

No worries, DHS is completely untouched. All 60 billion's worth. Gotta have your priorities