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Old 09-18-2013, 10:32 AM
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yes, it is very large.
and when you say 'shrink the military' people freak out. i don't think they realize how big that albatross is that we have hanging around our collective necks.

as for the foreign policy...it's been off the rails for decades. i think since ww2, before it ended really.
DHS which never even existed 12 years ago, is the 2nd largest funded cabinet dept after DoD, costing us 60 billion dollars a year.

Sixty Thousand Million dollars.

A year.

For "Homeland Security".

Anyone else feel like they're getting their money's worth?
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:16 AM
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Strange that when Bush was President the military wasn't described as bigger than one man yet under Obama it suddenly is.

I forgot it was Obama's military when bin-Laden was killed and only became bigger than one man when the Nobel Peace Prize recipient started performing a solo on his war drum.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:19 PM
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Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:59 PM
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Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?
He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:37 PM
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He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:09 PM
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He was for Not bombing Syria when it looked like we were going to Bomb Syria. Now that cooler heads prevail he is for bombing Syria. Really easy to follow as he is the Yang to Obama's Ying.
It's a textbook example of modern-day conservatism, which is the opposite of what liberals want, updated daily.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:44 PM
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It's a textbook example of modern-day conservatism, which is the opposite of what liberals want, updated daily.
I wouldnt say modern conservatism... But VOCAL conservatism. There are plently of us conservatives out there that want to see correct action and policy take place, not just benefiting a certain party.

Though I do consider myself a libertarian and not a republican. the libertarian party is the only actual conservative party out there.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:44 PM
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Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?
it's not confusing.
whatever obama does is wrong. even if he decided to do the opposite of what was originally planned.


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It's a textbook example of modern-day conservatism, which is the opposite of what liberals want, updated daily.

it's the same mindset as our foreign policy for decades. the ussr/russia is for it? then we're against it. oh, now they're against it. well, then we're for it. just like domestically, where obamacare was once a republican idea.
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it's the same mindset as our foreign policy for decades. the ussr/russia is for it? then we're against it. oh, now they're against it. well, then we're for it. just like domestically, where obamacare was once a republican idea.
"Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia."

Oh, Georgie O., you crazy Socialist, you.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:28 PM
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"Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia."

Oh, Georgie O., you crazy Socialist, you.
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:16 PM
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it's not confusing.
whatever obama does is wrong. even if he decided to do the opposite of what was originally planned.
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Except Obama, almost alone, was for bombing Syria before he was against it. (consistent)
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:42 PM
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Except Obama, almost alone, was for bombing Syria before he was against it. (consistent)
Misdirection ploy...brilliant....now if Russia-Syria back out of the agreed upon disposal of chem weapons then we go back to bombing..
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:58 PM
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Misdirection ploy...brilliant....now if Russia-Syria back out of the agreed upon disposal of chem weapons then we go back to bombing..
You realize the rebels include and may be controlled by al Qaida?

Yes or no w/o a cartoon, do you support bombing Assad?
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:12 PM
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Dell, I'm confused.... shouldnt you be happy that we are not bombing Syria at the moment?
I'm happy whether it be Putin or Congress or popular opinion that changed Obama-Cheney, I mean Obama-Kerry from bombing Syria. Also let the boots on the ground if needed to affirm all chem weapons are accounted for and destroyed be other than American troops.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:43 PM
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DHS which never even existed 12 years ago, is the 2nd largest funded cabinet dept after DoD, costing us 60 billion dollars a year.

Sixty Thousand Million dollars.

A year.

For "Homeland Security".

Anyone else feel like they're getting their money's worth?
No.
it's ridiculous...and booming business for contractors. what gets me is when you read about millions of $ worth of equipment that is in storage, ordered but never installed for buildings, airports, etc.
then you have defense contractors who keep lucrative contracts because the senators in the states that have those contractors don't want to cut jobs. huge money involved in keeping us 'safe'. from terrorists....
more people die in a month from car accidents than have died in all the years from 9-11 to now, from terrorists.
then you have nsa et al spying on us....who are we staying safe from again?
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