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Old 11-21-2006, 03:00 PM
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"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer

"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer

"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer

"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer

"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer
Say it again. I didn't hear you!
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:06 PM
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Say it again. I didn't hear you!

"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer

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Old 11-21-2006, 03:07 PM
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"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:09 PM
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"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer
Nope its not coming through. LOL!
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:12 PM
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"Horses who tried to rally in the middle of the track seemed to lose their momentum and were outkicked by horses nearer the rail."-Beyer
repeatledy quoting Beyer?

He went two deep to find Ouija Board.

He found nothing else on BC Day.

What's he gonna say?
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:21 PM
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repeatledy quoting Beyer?

He went two deep to find Ouija Board.

He found nothing else on BC Day.

What's he gonna say?
He is gunna agree with Oracle,Myself,Doug O'neil,the owners of Thor's Echo,Corey Nakatani,Steve Byk,the owner of FLEET INDIAN,Joey(Ateam,)randallscott35,Lansdon Robbins etc.etc.etc.

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Old 11-21-2006, 03:31 PM
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He is gunna agree with Oracle,Myself,Doug O'neil,the owners of Thor's Echo,Corey Nakatani,Steve Byk,the owner of FLEET INDIAN,Joey(Ateam,)randallscott35,Lansdon Robbins etc.etc.etc.
Juf Filly... top3
Dream Anna... 4w early. hard to say she was bias aided. hard to say not.
Octave ... did ride inside
Cotton Blossom.... 4w, 5w

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104030.pdf
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:33 PM
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For yhose of you quoting Beyer. I'd take a flashlight with me in the mourning if he told the sun was going to rise.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:49 PM
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Brad Free is also on record saying that the Churchill main favored inside runners and hurt outside runners.Wrote it when he was writing about how QLM was gunna fly home in the Moccasin.
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:38 PM
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He is gunna agree with Oracle,Myself,Doug O'neil,the owners of Thor's Echo,Corey Nakatani,Steve Byk,the owner of FLEET INDIAN,Joey(Ateam,)randallscott35,Lansdon Robbins etc.etc.etc.
Juv...
Street Sense ... rail sure didn't hurt. he looked geared down winning. would have won anyway?
CQ .... 4w,5w
GHunter... steadied, checked, 4wide. who knows?
Scat Daddy... 4wide most of way
Princ Secret... insside speed stopped cold.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104040.pdf
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:42 PM
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He is gunna agree with Oracle,Myself,Doug O'neil,the owners of Thor's Echo,Corey Nakatani,Steve Byk,the owner of FLEET INDIAN,Joey(Ateam,)randallscott35,Lansdon Robbins etc.etc.etc.
Sprint
Thor .... 3w
Friendly... rail trip
Nightmare ...3wide
Bordonaro ... had the inside trip compared to the top 3.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104060.pdf
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:03 PM
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Sprint
Thor .... 3w
Friendly... rail trip
Nightmare ...3wide
Bordonaro ... had the inside trip compared to the top 3.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104060.pdf
"On the turn I had so much horse that if I had stayed on the rail much longer I would have run over the ones in front of me," said Nakatani

I don't know how many times I have to give you the man's words.He is on the rail gate to turn,and is running so fast he would trample the others,if he didn't go around them 3 wide.The reason he is full of run while the horses on the outside aren't full of run,is because he has been riding that golden rail the 1st part of the race.Keep denying though.Just like you keep denying you want Israel to get it's a$$ kicked.DENY,DENY.

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Old 11-21-2006, 03:45 PM
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He is gunna agree with Oracle,Myself,Doug O'neil,the owners of Thor's Echo,Corey Nakatani,Steve Byk,the owner of FLEET INDIAN,Joey(Ateam,)randallscott35,Lansdon Robbins etc.etc.etc.
Distaff

Real hard to base any claims of any sort off the Distaff with most of the money breaking down on the track.

All top finishers had inside trips.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104080.pdf
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:51 PM
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He is gunna agree with Oracle,Myself,Doug O'neil,the owners of Thor's Echo,Corey Nakatani,Steve Byk,the owner of FLEET INDIAN,Joey(Ateam,)randallscott35,Lansdon Robbins etc.etc.etc.


Classic
Invasor .... always 3 w, 5 wide stretch
Bern... 4 wide, then wider when making move
Giacomo ... 5 wide to turn. 7-8 wide thereafter.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104100.pdf

Aside from the Distaff, I just don't see the huge bias so many saw.

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Old 11-21-2006, 04:24 PM
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Classic
Invasor .... always 3 w, 5 wide stretch
Bern... 4 wide, then wider when making move
Giacomo ... 5 wide to turn. 7-8 wide thereafter.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=cd1104100.pdf

Aside from the Distaff, I just don't see the huge bias so many saw.

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Don't you get it though? Everyone is an expert handicapper so if the race didn't turn out like they expected then they need a reason, it couldn't possibly be that they might not have capped the race perfectly, it has to be a bias.

I'm guessing there was probably a little bias, I don't think it was anywhere near as pronounced as people are making it out to be though and did not have a major impact on the outcome of the races.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:57 PM
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Don't you get it though? Everyone is an expert handicapper so if the race didn't turn out like they expected then they need a reason, it couldn't possibly be that they might not have capped the race perfectly, it has to be a bias.

I'm guessing there was probably a little bias, I don't think it was anywhere near as pronounced as people are making it out to be though and did not have a major impact on the outcome of the races.
Oh, no,all 5 previous grade 1 winners of a sprint are off the board in the B C Sprint,but you could have seen that pure as f'n snow by capping.The sheets,and every other capping mechanism all pointed to the 5 previous grade 1 winners all being out of the tri in this Grade 1.We are not talking about winning here.I am talking about hitting the board.You're telling me that good handicapping would make it obvious that the previous 5 grade 1 winning sprinters in the race(as well as TM Bling) were gunna run out of the money? You make no sense.ZERO.Deny,like the Churchill Shills that you are,but people who know how to cap,know that track was f'd up.This is what almost always happens when a mistake is made.Deny the obvious.Attack the messenger.The problem is that all the evidence is on one side,It is overwhelming(as I just gave you about n grade 1 winners even hitting the board in the sprint.)No matter what,if you don't want to see it, you will deny the words of trainers who admit they benefitted by a quick inside strip.Why would they say this? Why would ONEIL say it was obvious the inside was the place to be? Why? It makes no sense.All the Churchill Shills can say is that people who lose blame the track surface.Oh,never mind the BC SPRINT Winning trainer also said it.What is your reason for him saying it? Come on.Make some sense, you shills.
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