A Case for Not Bombing Syria

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Im no fan of Fox, but it doesn't take a lot of spin to make the administration's handling of Syria look bad. Its been dreadful.

our foreign policy moves have been godawful for years now. but yes, it seems that lately it's a headless snake, thrashing about aimlessly.

and we are paying dearly for the debacle known as iraq. we need a doctrine for the middle east. right now it's whack a mole.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

our foreign policy moves have been godawful for years now. but yes, it seems that lately it's a headless snake, thrashing about aimlessly.

and we are paying dearly for the debacle known as iraq. we need a doctrine for the middle east. right now it's whack a mole.

Bullseye..whoever raises their ugly head gets whacked..

[Danzig]

i'm serious. we stand here with a big mallet and try to take care of things as they pop up. not a great strategy at all. we've become a huge international player, but with no game plan. what is our goal?


i think the president has an opportunity to get things straight. i think he should formulate a middle east doctrine, and take it to the un, and explain what we see as how things should be. that the goal is peace, freedom and prosperity. that we will not involve ourselves in conflicts such as syria, but that these certain weapons must never be used, and that the international community must be willing to back international law, else those laws mean nothing. we must weigh evidence, and must act.
the un security council must change. it should be a majority vote. we also need to call out ALL illegal goings on, right israel?

[bigrun]

Here's a good Q @ A on Syria..

Syria: Questions about a chaotic, tormented land.

But there are protests in lots of places. How did it all go so wrong in Syria?

There’s no single answer. Journalist Fareed Zakaria argues that what we’re seeing is in some ways the inevitable re-balancing of power along ethnic and religious lines. He compares it to the sectarian bloodbath in Iraq after the United States toppled Saddam Hussein, after which a long-oppressed majority retook power from, and violently punished, the former minority rulers.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/na...a36600e2c.html

[dellinger63]

And here's a rebel soldier, the side we would help by bombing Assad, point of view.

His father accepts Mohammed’s front-line role. “I put my trust in God,” he said.

But there’s a rub. Young Mohammed admires another local rebel group, the militant Islamist Jabhat al-Nusra, which is affiliated with al Qaeda.

“They know Islam and Sharia,” he said. “They know what it means to be a Muslim.”

A father who is proud of an 11-year old for killing, while putting his trust in God, is fubared.

Sharia law whether consensual or forced should not be tolerated and should be contained and extracted similar to how the world treats an oil spill or nuclear meltdown.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...g20uqtYAqgv63N

[Rudeboyelvis]

Fantastic to see John McCain, whom ever since escaping from a tiger cage as a POW in 'Nam has never seen a war that he thought would be a good idea to stay out of, playing games on his iphone during the hearings:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...aring/2761445/

All this on the heels of Kerry now proclaiming that the unsubstantiated reports of WMD's....err....Chemical Weapons - are not as important a reason to invade as is our "credibility"

>>>It matters because a lot of other countries, whose polices challenges these international norms, are watching. They are watching. They want to see whether the United States and our friends mean what we say. It is directly related to our credibility and whether countries still believe the United States when it says something. They are watching to see if Syria can get away with it, because then maybe they too can put the world at greater risk.<<<

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ement/2749051/

He has also eluded to and opened the door for the US to deploy ground troops, and then quickly backpedaled when he quickly noticed the expressions on the faces of the members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nd-troops.html

>>>"I don't want to take off the table an option that might or might not be available to a president of the United States to secure our country," he said.

Mr Kerry's comment was immediately picked up on by Senator Robert Menendez, his predecessor as the committee chair, who said the American people saw the issue of ground troops as an "overriding issue".

The secretary of state was also criticised by Senator Bob Corker, the committee's leading Republican, who said the answer was not "very appropriate"<<<

What country did I wake up in?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ia_752712.html

lol flim flam in full effect..