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[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes, 2 dirt starts, the rest all in Cali and all on synthetic and most against tin cans...but I don't want to rehash Zenyatta, its more the concept that you can't take a weary eye to her accomplishments without being attacked.

she turned them into tin cans. how can you be so obtuse ? Broke every fillies spirit that she passed, which was every single one of them.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

she turned them into tin cans. how can you be so obtuse ? Broke every fillies spirit that she passed, which was every single one of them.

OMG, do a search for Calzone Lord or whatever he was called back in the day based on her competition and what they accomplished. It is enlightening....I am now done with this thread.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

SHAWSHANK REF.. 'how can you be so obtuse' WHAT HAPPENED IN THE B.C?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

OMG, do a search for Calzone Lord or whatever he was called back in the day based on her competition and what they accomplished. It is enlightening....I am now done with this thread.

Who DIDNT she beat that was running in the female division? She raced in three breeders cups for God's sake, its not like she ducked the big races.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Who DIDNT she beat that was running in the female division? She raced in three breeders cups for God's sake, its not like she ducked the big races.

She raced the same female scrubs all year long over and over in SoCal except for the BC. Granted, that his how racing goes these days. It was a double edged sword in that no trainers with good females wanted to face her much either.

But, she could have been tried in tougher races all over the country as well as at home. She didn't race in a single Big Cap, Hollywood Gold Cup, or Pacific Classic.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

She raced the same female scrubs all year long over and over in SoCal except for the BC. Granted, that his how racing goes these days. It was a double edged sword in that no trainers with good females wanted to face her much either.

But, she could have been tried in tougher races all over the country as well as at home. She didn't race in a single Big Cap, Hollywood Gold Cup, or Pacific Classic.

Yes those would have been better races, but against her own kind, which is what female horses are judged upon she really beat every one that was any good.

Her two races against males were pretty good as well I suppose.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Yes those would have been better races, but against her own kind, which is what female horses are judged upon she really beat every one that was any good.

Her two races against males were pretty good as well I suppose.

They were good. Just seemed odd she was never tried against males in the big races. Lets not pretend like her connections were on some mission to seek out any and all competition. That is all I'm saying.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

They were good. Just seemed odd she was never tried against males in the big races. Lets not pretend like her connections were on some mission to seek out any and all competition. That is all I'm saying.

John Shirreffs is the most conservative trainer I have met, before him Paco Gonzales. Had hole strings of nice horses in barn yet never ran them.

[TouchOfGrey]

She didn't race in a single Big Cap, Hollywood Gold Cup, or Pacific Classic.

This.