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Old 06-10-2013, 03:16 PM
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<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

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<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

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That's pretty funny, but considering he is dependant upon China not extraditing him, may not have been a bad idea.
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Old 06-10-2013, 03:22 PM
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That's pretty funny, but considering he is dependant upon China not extraditing him, may not have been a bad idea.
Excellent point. I guess the number of nations not afraid to refuse to extradite to the US is probably pretty small.
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er....yeah
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Let's first worry about that smarmy treasonous Bradley Manning as a president for what this non-military piece of shiat is facing?

Not sure the piece of shiat that was the private contractor can be held to the same standards as a sworn in military person?
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But I'm good with firing squad for Manning for sure.
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Let's first worry about that smarmy treasonous Bradley Manning as a president for what this non-military piece of shiat is facing?

Not sure the piece of shiat that was the private contractor can be held to the same standards as a sworn in military person?




Bradley Manning as a president? You've outdone yourself yet again.
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Bradley Manning as a president? You've outdone yourself yet again.
lol

president, precedent...what's the difference?
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Let's first worry about that smarmy treasonous Bradley Manning as a president for what this non-military piece of shiat is facing?

Not sure the piece of shiat that was the private contractor can be held to the same standards as a sworn in military person?
so, it's your assertion that snowden is a 'piece of shiat'?!

'At the same time, legal experts saw differences between the two cases, namely that Manning's secret-spilling was more scattershot, while Snowden appeared more selective.

"I'm not awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom here," Eugene R. Fidell, who teaches military law at Yale Law School, said of Snowden. "I'm just saying you could say it is something more akin to educating the American public about sensitive surveillance issues that have some level of First Amendment concern attached to them."'

i am glad that snowden let the public know, by going to the post, about what was going on. he didn't turn over a bunch of classified info, he just let out that the phone records were being checked en masse. and i'm glad he did so.
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<"Snowden said he decided to leave his family, girlfriend and a comfortable, $200,000-a-year salary behind, and flew to Hong Kong on May 20. He said he chose China because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.">

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You can't compare Hong Kong to mainland China. There is obviously no free speech in China. Hong Kong is totally different. There is free speech in Hong Kong.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/wo...anted=all&_r=0


most likely would be extradited from HK.
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You can't compare Hong Kong to mainland China. There is obviously no free speech in China. Hong Kong is totally different. There is free speech in Hong Kong.
Except he didn't say "Hong Kong," he said, "China." And it's not as free as you think:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/f...2012/hong-kong
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Except he didn't say "Hong Kong," he said, "China." And it's not as free as you think:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/f...2012/hong-kong
eh, china...hong kong...what's the difference?
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http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-cartoo...140004286.html


oh. great. getting mocked by china. that's heartwarming.

'The Chinese media are gleefully reporting recent leaks about widespread US surveillance programs, while a prominent Chinese dissident is expressing dismay that the US is "behaving like China."'

and others:

'Mr. Snowden’s journey has been covered by news outlets from Spain to Saudi Arabia, with headlines like “Obama Isn’t Bush, But He’s Like Him,” “Edward Snowden, Freedom Fighter,” “NSA surveillance: The US is behaving like China,” and "Dangers of blowing the whistle in the digital age" slapped on front pages and websites.'


"For months, Washington has been accusing China of cyberespionage, but it turns out that the biggest threat to the pursuit of individual freedom and privacy in the US is the unbridled power of the government," The China Daily quoted Li Haidong from China Foreign Affairs University.

A cartoon in the paper’s opinion section depicts a US emblem of freedom – The Statue of Liberty – trailed by a shadowy spy wearing headphones and carrying recording devices.



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oh. great. getting mocked by china. that's heartwarming.

'The Chinese media are gleefully reporting recent leaks about widespread US surveillance programs, while a prominent Chinese dissident is expressing dismay that the US is "behaving like China."'

and others:

'Mr. Snowden’s journey has been covered by news outlets from Spain to Saudi Arabia, with headlines like “Obama Isn’t Bush, But He’s Like Him,” “Edward Snowden, Freedom Fighter,” “NSA surveillance: The US is behaving like China,” and "Dangers of blowing the whistle in the digital age" slapped on front pages and websites.'


"For months, Washington has been accusing China of cyberespionage, but it turns out that the biggest threat to the pursuit of individual freedom and privacy in the US is the unbridled power of the government," The China Daily quoted Li Haidong from China Foreign Affairs University.

A cartoon in the paper’s opinion section depicts a US emblem of freedom – The Statue of Liberty – trailed by a shadowy spy wearing headphones and carrying recording devices.



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