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Old 11-18-2006, 10:06 PM
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Of all the teams I have seen, the best team as a total package I have seen is on TV is LSU. And they stink tonight. I have seen no team with the same talent on both sides of the ball at this point in the season. But because they are inconsistent... my assertion does not mean a whole heck of a lot but I thought I would throw it in anyway.

Michigan had Ohio St. try and give them the game with those turnovers. Michigan did not come close to stopping them.

Best job done by a coach this year, Bob Stoops without Adrian Peterson, his starting QB, favorite receiver and a very young offensive line. This is your best coach in college football. Still. Even with his overconfident big loss bowl teams.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:30 PM
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I think it is simple:

1) Florida if they win out

2) USC if they win out and Florida loses

3) Arkansas if they win out and USC loses.

4) Michigan

I pretty much agree that while I wouldn't normally put Michigan in the national championship after losing their last game there is no way I could put Notre Dame ahead of them.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:33 PM
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Go Irish!!!!!!
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:45 PM
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I can't wait until USC-ND next week. Should be a barn burner.
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Old 11-19-2006, 09:12 AM
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I can't wait until USC-ND next week. Should be a barn burner.
Pillow here is where you make your money. Notre Dame will have a very difficult time stopping USC. Quinn has been beating up sissy teams although I think he is a heck of a QB, even better than Troy Smith and I am saying this after the display yesterday. The Irish faithful bet in mass. Cant wait to see this line.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:56 AM
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I agree with Oracle on this one. A rematch on a neutral field for all the marbles.

Florida would be my second choice if they win out. Their loss wasn't a bad one and it was on the road.

I really don't get the love for USC. They had several close calls with mediocre competition and lost to an unranked team. I'm a Notre Dame fan and hope they have one more miracle saved for the Trojans. But ND doesn't deserve it either after that Michigan loss at home.

Arkansas, sorry, waxed at home.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:16 AM
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I agree with Oracle on this one. A rematch on a neutral field for all the marbles.

Florida would be my second choice if they win out. Their loss wasn't a bad one and it was on the road.

I really don't get the love for USC. They had several close calls with mediocre competition and lost to an unranked team. I'm a Notre Dame fan and hope they have one more miracle saved for the Trojans. But ND doesn't deserve it either after that Michigan loss at home.

Arkansas, sorry, waxed at home.
Isn't that really the point?
If you are taking a one loss team you have to toss out the teams who lost at home, sorry but you don't deserve to go. I'm a ND fan, as big as they get but ND has absolutely no business even being mentioned in the same sentence as title game. fact is that they lost at home to Michigan, over and out.
USC? You gotta be kidding me right? I mean, they have less claim to it than ND does and ND doesn't have any claim. USC has like less than zero business in there. Newsflash, the overhyped trojans lost to an unranked team, I see no way anyone with a brain who isnt biased could even begin to make a case for them.
Ark lost at home as well, later folks.
Comes down to the Gators as the only other logical alternative over Mich and they lost a tough road game as well in a tough conference. If they win the next two I can understand support for them, but lets face it. A road loss to Auburn(twice beaten) is not the same as a narrow road loss to number one.
Michigan deserves to go, and I think they win the game at a neutral site.
Only team who can make a case besided Mich is the gators. Im a huge ND fan but ND fans and USC fans who say either team has a right to go are pretty dumb. How do you put ND in over the team that trashed em at home? how do you stick USC in there when they got beat by an unranked team in that powder puff conference. The SEC women's volleyball teams are tougher than the PAC-10 guys.
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Old 11-19-2006, 01:27 PM
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Of all the teams I have seen, the best team as a total package I have seen is on TV is LSU. And they stink tonight. I have seen no team with the same talent on both sides of the ball at this point in the season. But because they are inconsistent... my assertion does not mean a whole heck of a lot but I thought I would throw it in anyway.
i'm and SEC fan. Lsu is one of the top 3 mosted talented teams in the country. i've said this since week one. if someone can explain the sleep walk Lsu goes into every couple weeks, please do.

USC wins out they play for the NC. USC plays good enough defense, they should beat nd by at least 2 scores.
nd schedule was a joke. they only team they didn't play was st mary's college for girls. the best team they played to this point smacked'em around like a rag-doll (michigan)

it's the gators year they get breaks when they need them. OSU would blew them out. arkansas is a joke too. they've needed trick plays and gimmicks to get where they are.

michigan lost the conference CG, this weekend. they should be out.

OSU, best team in the country. hand'em the trophy now. !


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Old 11-19-2006, 01:36 PM
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Looks like we are on the road to a rematch. Michigan is #2 in the Harris Poll and #3 in the Coaches poll. They should stay #2 in the computers which means we are looking at Michigan - OSU in the championship unless some voters change their minds in the next couple weeks.
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Old 11-19-2006, 01:49 PM
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Just another example of why there simply must be a play-off system to determine the national championship. Nothing else will ever be satisfactory. Probably will never happen though...at least not in my lifetime.
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:03 PM
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Oracle,
I know there's precedence for a rematch because of the whole Florida-FSU rematch a few years ago. But i still don't agree with it.

Go Florida, or go USC. They at this point should get the shot. I still think Michigan is the best team not named Ohio State, but it totally devalues game 1 if you play game 2 and Michigan wins.
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:38 PM
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what did I watch a diff. game than everyone else?

How many times did Michigan actually stop OSU? ONe flippin time the whole game, ONE FLIPPIN PUNT. OSU layed the ball on the ground for Mich. two times with lousy snaps for short TD's. No way I want to see that again.

Michigan had their chance. Next please. Its done.
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
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Pgardn stick to hoops buddy.
I don't know what game you were watching but Michigan scored at will in the 2nd half and lost a 3 point game in the other teams stadium(if you don't understand the importance of this I can't help you).
Road to the rematch is secure General Sir!!!
Geek on tv said when the new poll comes out the Michigans lead over USC and the others in the two spot will be almost as large as it was.
I'm an ND fan, but i want whats fair and right, and whats fair and right is the rematch.
Pmayjr I have no idea whatsoever why the "validity" of game one matters.
It didnt matter when the Gators came back and crished FSU at a neutral site afetr FSU narrowly beat them in FSU.
The best two teams should play, and the best two teams are OSU and Michigan.
Michigan will win the rematch. Mark that down.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:24 PM
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Oracle-
I'm done arguing lol. I like your signature. He was freaknasty.

P.S.- Both you and Pgardn have me faded when it comes to talkin horses, but Pgardn is on crack in this subject and I still don't agree with you on it Oracle. But I'm gonna leave it at that... Because none of us are backing down. Go back to the first post in this thread, my opinions don't change from that.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:18 AM
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USC wins OUT.

BEATS OSU in the "BIG ONE" (and I cash my NC future).

They are preparing the armored car as I type. Gonna need a big one this time.

Also have a SB future on the BOYS (little shaky on that one).


Dixie I have watched both teams play and if USC gets to play OSU they will get beat like a drum, I'm talking blowout city. USC is a joke, they have struggled to beat those dreadful Pac teams and it was all they could do to finally put away Cal at home.
I mean please, look at who they lost to!!!!
I think Notre Dame is going to spoil their party anyway. USC does not have a high powered offense and they have trouble with teams who can score. Notre Dame should run wild on them.
If someone wants to claim Florida played an overall tougher schedule than anyone did, and that their only loss was at Auburn to a respectable team, well I guess I can see the argument there. But USC, Notre Dame, Arkansas all have no business whatsoever even being spoken about in terms of playing the Title game. Sickening.
There's a reason Vegas adds 3-4 points to the team at home in these games. You have to face a hostile crowd that makes it difficult on the offense of the visitor(false starts, can't hear audibles at the line) and home team always gets more calls from the refs. Michigan lost by three in an incredibly hostile atmosphere to the number one team, and is without a doubt one of the best two teams in the country.
This is a completely broken system because if you lose late in the season you get penalized more than a team who loses early. USC gotbeat by an inferior non ranked team, and ND got embarassed at home by Mich and Ark got killed at home as well.
ND beating USC is the key to justice being served.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:48 AM
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tha razor backs take aout lsu then the gators...no doubt..
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:55 AM
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my playoff format:

1) Ohio State vs. 16) Va. Tech
8) U of L vs. 9) LSU

4) Florida vs. 13) Rutgers
5) Notre Dame vs. 12) Texas

2) Michigan vs. 15) Ga. Tech
7) West Virginia vs. 10) Boise State

3) USC vs. 14) Oklahoma
6) Arkansas vs. 11) Wisconsin

subject to change due to loss
3 teams per conference tops
take out the 12th game & conference championship game
as it is in that format a team would play 14
in this format a team would play 15 tops
with only two teams playing in the 1 extra game
why can't it work?

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Old 11-20-2006, 09:01 AM
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tha razor backs take aout lsu then the gators...no doubt..
Dude I hope so. If that happens and ND beats USC, the best two teams will meet in a great game, a rematch of another great game.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:27 AM
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There is no "justice" in the world we live in (I hope ).

If USC doesn't run the table they're toast. The networks are drooling for USC/OSU.

I have a huge overhead and could really use this "future" (unlesss you can come up with a few 10/1 shots for me).
Had one on Saturday, these Jump Starts can really run.
17 winners so far in his first crop, not one of them out of a mare you ever heard of.
They wanna go long, and are only going to get better.
Forget the football games and betting, just take that spare cash and go and buy some Jump Starts and give em to your main man out there.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:44 AM
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Real fair Oracle?

Ohio St. goes 2-0 vs. Michigan and wins Nat. Championship
Michigan goes 1-1 vs. Ohio State and wins Nat. Championship.

No way. MOve on.

Next. Ohio St. really outplayed them badly despite the score. I thought Michigan's defense got ripped. Next please. USC or Florida , West Virginia or even Arkansas (not even close to the same team that got trounced by USC 1st game) I would even accept ND, dont think they beat USC though.

BUT NOT MICHIGAN AGAIN. ITS DONE.

playoffs, will we ever see them in my lifetime...
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