Belmont S. could offer short-lived return to glory for Derby plodders

[Danzig]

how much 'redemption' does orb need? wasnt the derby his fifth win in a row? and followed winning the graded foy, fla derby?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how much 'redemption' does orb need? wasnt the derby his fifth win in a row? and followed winning the graded foy, fla derby?

I suppose he's already won the 3-year-old title in some peoples eyes, just as he had already won the triple crown in those same eyes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I suppose he's already won the 3-year-old title in some peoples eyes, just as he had already won the triple crown in those same eyes.

true.

[10 pnt move up]

So a closer can win this race, been done many many times, I wonder how horses who closed in the crazy pace Derbys, skipped the Preakness, faired when they ran in the Belmont.

Horses like Ice Box.

I am against Revolutionary in the Belmont and figure he fits that Ice Box pattern.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

So a closer can win this race, been done many many times, I wonder how horses who closed in the crazy pace Derbys, skipped the Preakness, faired when they ran in the Belmont.

Horses like Ice Box.

I am against Revolutionary in the Belmont and figure he fits that Ice Box pattern.

They haven't done well.

However, Ice Box was an example of a horse who caught a wet track blazing fast pace in the Derby and a moderate pace in the Belmont.

I don't think the pace will be moderate this year, so Ice Box might not be the best example.

[Sightseek]

Poor Giacomo!

Having been ridden better, he would have hit the board in all 3 Triple Crown races.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Poor Giacomo!

Having been ridden better, he would have hit the board in all 3 Triple Crown races.

I thought he flipped his palate in the Belmont.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I thought he flipped his palate in the Belmont.

no, i think it was mike smith.