Return to consos on P4/P5/P6

Originally Posted by OTM Al

Ok, but he did say he was in a huff after they were applied correctly. Does this make it different? I didn't know the rules is at least an honest if foolish answer. I knew the rules but don't agree they should be applied is something else entirely. I happen to agree with him that the rules should be uniform. However, this is not the appropriate way to set this argument, but sounds rather like sour grapes. It affected me, so now I'll be angry? And why should one way be preferred to another? Maybe all bets should consolations for late scratches for example. This is not, as he indicated, an integrity issue.

How is it sour grapes when he profited either way? You seem to take offense to it for some odd reason. I suggest you start betting instead of preaching and pointing your fingers as a snob to others who actually do

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

How is it sour grapes when he profited either way? You seem to take offense to it for some odd reason. I suggest you start betting instead of preaching and pointing your fingers as a snob to others who actually do

Seriously?

[OTM Al]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Seriously?

Guess he doesn't like the rule either....or more like doesn't know them either. Ever notice how people constantly complain something isn't fair based alone on the fact it doesn't go the way they wanted it too? Frankly after Saturday I kind of wish I didn't bet so much. I'll get over it I'm sure. As for him, well.....

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by OTM Al

Guess he doesn't like the rule either....or more like doesn't know them either. Ever notice how people constantly complain something isn't fair based alone on the fact it doesn't go the way they wanted it too? Frankly after Saturday I kind of wish I didn't bet so much. I'll get over it I'm sure. As for him, well.....

You couldn't have misinterpreted my post any more. I completely benefitted by getting the post time favorite after POE scratched...

If for some reason Wise Dan didn't win, there would be massive blather about this. It's worth at least discussing the conso. v. post time fave.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

You couldn't have misinterpreted my post any more. I completely benefitted by getting the post time favorite after POE scratched...

If for some reason Wise Dan didn't win, there would be massive blather about this. It's worth at least discussing the conso. v. post time fave.

The problem is there is never going to be a "fair" thing to do. Some people will prefer a conso and some will prefer the post time favorite. Either way one group will not be happy with how it is handled.

The fairest thing to do would be to allow people to select a replacement horse in the place of the scratched horse. But that is a logistic nightmare and would create chaos.

Personally my opinion on this is situational based on how it will benefit me the most. If the scratch leaves me with the favorite that I like, I think the rule is fine. If I get the favorite I don't like, I would prefer the conso.

Unfortunately I suspect most think this way, which puts us back where we started. One group is going to be upset.

How about a deadline for trainers to scratch their horse? Based on what I read from the original posters post....the delayed scratch by the trainer is what caused this a discussion.

[Travis Stone]

There is never a right answer to this stuff. It is sort of annoying they scratched so late in the day. Rain was the topic of conversation for the entire week.

I've always thought that giving each ticket the "next lowest uncovered horse" was an interesting idea.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

How about a deadline for trainers to scratch their horse? Based on what I read from the original posters post....the delayed scratch by the trainer is what caused this a discussion.

you'd still have late scratches with gate issues and the like.

yes, shug waited as long as possible to declare, which tells me he was hoping to run, but the weather didn't cooperate.
this is one of the reasons why it's called gambling, not winning. plenty of factors come into play.

[OTM Al]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

How about a deadline for trainers to scratch their horse? Based on what I read from the original posters post....the delayed scratch by the trainer is what caused this a discussion.

First, because it was a stakes race, the scratch was completely within the rules. Second, all most likely senarios that happen by making that horse run are bad. If the trainer knows the horse, and I'm going to go out on a limb and assume he does, the horse would have had a boatload of money bet on him and he would have run badly. His backers are screwed and the participants in the race are endangered. Finally, this is no different at its most fundemental level than if the horse flipped in the paddock and killed himself. Going to try to make rules so he has to run then?