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Old 05-01-2013, 06:04 AM
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Why should North Dakota State be barred from BCS championship? The path to the derby is clearly defined as is the path to the BCS. The races are Open and fillies are not barred. A Todd Pletcher horse that freaked at Gulfstream vs 5 other horses in what turned out to be a glorified workout and now eveyone is screaming that the system is broke. Funny I don't remember a single post expressing any outrage that Restricted Filly races were omitted prior to Dreaming of Julia's race. This is my last post on the subject as I need to spend my time handicapping these races good Luck to everyone and especially to those "experts" that deem anyones opinion but their own as "stupid".
one, i never said someone with a differing opinion was stupid, and two, it's been said for months now, ever since the points system was first trotted out, that it had flaws. omitting filly races is one of them, was always mentioned as an error of omission.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:06 AM
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one, i never said someone with a differing opinion was stupid, and two, it's been said for months now, ever since the points system was first trotted out, that it had flaws. omitting filly races is one of them, was always mentioned as an error of omission.
good luck 'capping.
You too.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:53 PM
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Can't wait for the watch the post position draw online.

It's like watching a Cable Access TV production from 1988.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:52 PM
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5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY

1. Black Onyx (Kelly Breen/Joe Bravo) 50-1
2. Oxbow (D. Wayne Lukas/Gary Stevens) 30-1
3. Revolutionary (Todd Pletcher/Calvin Borel) 10-1
4. Golden Soul (Dallas Stewart/Robby Albarado) 50-1
5. Normandy Invasion (Chad Brown/Javier Castellano) 12-1
6. Mylute (Tom Amoss/Rosie Napravnik) 15-1
7. Giant Finish (Tony Dutrow/Jose Espinoza) 50-1
8. Goldencents (Doug O’Neill/Kevin Krigger) 5-1
9. Overanalyze (Todd Pletcher/Rafael Bejarano) 15-1
10. Palace Malice (Todd Pletcher/Mike Smith) 20-1
11. Lines of Battle (Aidan O’Brien/Ryan Moore) 30-1
12. Itsmyluckyday (Eddie Plesa Jr./Elvis Trujillo) 15-1
13. Falling Sky (John Terranova/Luis Saez) 50-1
14. Verrazano (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) 4-1
15. Charming Kitten (Todd Pletcher/Edgar Prado) 20-1
16. Orb (Shug McGaughey/Joel Rosario) 7-2*
17. Will Take Charge (D. Wayne Lukas/Jon Court) 20-1
18. Frac Daddy (Ken McPeek/V. Lebron) 50-1
19. Java’s War (Ken McPeek/Julian Leparoux) 15-1
20. Vyjack (Rudy Rodriguez/Garrett Gomez) 15-1
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21. (AE) Fear the Kitten (Mike Maker/Alan Garcia) 50-1


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Old 05-01-2013, 05:28 PM
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It's not an easy job, but how is Charming Kitten 20-1 on the ML and Oxbow is 30-1?
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:58 PM
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It's not an easy job, but how is Charming Kitten 20-1 on the ML and Oxbow is 30-1?
The Ramsey wagering factor ?
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:01 PM
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frac daddy at 50-1?
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:51 PM
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It's not an easy job, but how is Charming Kitten 20-1 on the ML and Oxbow is 30-1?
I'm really trying to find something to like about Oxbow. Anything. At least we don't know that Charming Kitten sucks on dirt yet. I don't have a problem with it, though it may have been a bit less obvious to install them both at 25-1
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:26 PM
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I'm really trying to find something to like about Oxbow. Anything. At least we don't know that Charming Kitten sucks on dirt yet. I don't have a problem with it, though it may have been a bit less obvious to install them both at 25-1
no speed on either side of him - breaks well - heads out for the lead to the 5-6 path- sets easy pace and powers home. Dewayne soils his $4000 suit.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:29 PM
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I'm really trying to find something to like about Oxbow. Anything. At least we don't know that Charming Kitten sucks on dirt yet. I don't have a problem with it, though it may have been a bit less obvious to install them both at 25-1
1. I agree with your comment on Oxbow
2. More importantly, your Avatar reminds me that there is a Duck Dynasty marathon on...Need a break from looking at this stuff.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:39 PM
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I'm really trying to find something to like about Oxbow. Anything. At least we don't know that Charming Kitten sucks on dirt yet. I don't have a problem with it, though it may have been a bit less obvious to install them both at 25-1
um........
i'd spend my time looking elsewhere. he 'looked uncomfortable' according to what i read earlier about his time on track today-and i guess he's been looking that way for a bit.
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