John Shirreffs moving to New York

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I'd bet that NYRA is very happy to hear that he's coming.

Why? he will take 30 stalls and those 30 horses will cumulatively race 30 times.WHOOPIE

[Vegaskid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why? he will take 30 stalls and those 30 horses will cumulatively race 30 times.WHOOPIE

Ya they only want the juicers whom run the pigs into the ground!!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Ya they only want the juicers whom run the pigs into the ground!!

Like Bill Mott, Christophe Clement, Graham Motion, etc etc etc.

[Vegaskid]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Are you interested in discussion at all or do you just intend to hit and run with one liners?

At least three different people have attempted to question your comments and done so pretty directly and you have avoided replying to them except to continue making lame comments. What is the purpose of that?

Really?? Questions??

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yeah because when I think of clean trainers, California is the first place I think of.

Yes, they are the same, but NY seems to have the biggest in the game.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Did you just call Linda Rice a juicer?

Yes. I believe she does.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Like Bill Mott, Christophe Clement, Graham Motion, etc etc etc.

Ya, there are good clean trainers at every track, but NY has the most juicers IMO.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Really?? Questions??



Yes, they are the same, but NY seems to have the biggest in the game.



Yes. I believe she does.



Ya, there are good clean trainers at every track, but NY has the most juicers IMO.

you believe linda rice is a juicer based on what? i don't recall her ever getting in trouble.

[Vegaskid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you believe linda rice is a juicer based on what? i don't recall her ever getting in trouble.

Just an assumption based on the frequency she runs her horses, the amount of breakdowns her horses have, and vet scratches. She is very active claiming and getting horses to improve off claims.

I hope I am wrong about her and she is the exception but I would bet she does.

So for now, strike Rice and insert Jacobson and Engelhart.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Just an assumption based on the frequency she runs her horses, the amount of breakdowns her horses have, and vet scratches. She is very active claiming and getting horses to improve off claims.

I hope I am wrong about her and she is the exception but I would bet she does.

So for now, strike Rice and insert Jacobson and Engelhart.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Just an assumption based on the frequency she runs her horses, the amount of breakdowns her horses have, and vet scratches. She is very active claiming and getting horses to improve off claims.

I hope I am wrong about her and she is the exception but I would bet she does.

So for now, strike Rice and insert Jacobson and Engelhart.

so that's enough to go on message boards and accuse her of being a juicer....

wow.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Really?? Questions??



Yes, they are the same, but NY seems to have the biggest in the game.



Yes. I believe she does.



Ya, there are good clean trainers at every track, but NY has the most juicers IMO.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Ya they only want the juicers whom run the pigs into the ground!!

What evidence is there that illegal drugs are used more at NYRA tracks then any other racetrack or circuit?

[Vegaskid]

Originally Posted by pointman

What evidence is there that illegal drugs are used more at NYRA tracks then any other racetrack or circuit?

Is this Dick Dutrow posting??!!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Vegaskid

Is this Dick Dutrow posting??!!

Are you interested in discussion at all or do you just intend to hit and run with one liners?

At least three different people have attempted to question your comments and done so pretty directly and you have avoided replying to them except to continue making lame comments. What is the purpose of that?

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why? he will take 30 stalls and those 30 horses will cumulatively race 30 times.WHOOPIE

You're right. A prestigious, reputable trainer with a few dozen quality horses and noteworthy owners . . . Who needs that?

So is this really Hollywood Parks last year?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

So is this really Hollywood Parks last year?

heli, i thought of your question while reading my b'horse magazine last night. it seems that california and the horsemen are looking at fairplex to start adding dates, or maybe making changes at los alamitos. there was also mention of a stronach owned facility, but the name escapes me at the moment. there was a line in the article that said many horsemen think 2013 is hollywood parks last year.

Originally Posted by Danzig

heli, i thought of your question while reading my b'horse magazine last night. it seems that california and the horsemen are looking at fairplex to start adding dates, or maybe making changes at los alamitos. there was also mention of a stronach owned facility, but the name escapes me at the moment. there was a line in the article that said many horsemen think 2013 is hollywood parks last year.

Thanks for answering. As long as the track is not All weather like Hollywood, I am good.

[alysheba4]

if they go to los al or fairplex it will be a complete joke.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

if they go to los al or fairplex it will be a complete joke.

i'd have to think that fairplex, of the three mentioned in the article has the best shot to get more dates. seems tho that santa anita will get the bulk of the dates, with the other places having more use as training/stabling facilities.
with los al having full-time qb racing, i don't see them adding much for t'breds. and if they don't want to add a turf course, that doesn't help their situation either.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Thanks for answering. As long as the track is not All weather like Hollywood, I am good.

sure. i remembered you asking while i was reading the article. i don't think they're looking much for a replacement track for dates; i guess santa anita will get them a lot of that. seems, from what i've seen, that they are more concerned with stall space and training facility issues.

edit~~ just grabbed that issue. san luis rey downs, a training center 'may be back in the picture'. that's the place stronach, etc owns. has a one mile track.
fairplex would expand the 5f track to 6f, and add a five furlong turf track.
los al has a 5f track. they'd change it to 7f, but no turf track added.

Originally Posted by Danzig

sure. i remembered you asking while i was reading the article. i don't think they're looking much for a replacement track for dates; i guess santa anita will get them a lot of that. seems, from what i've seen, that they are more concerned with stall space and training facility issues.

edit~~ just grabbed that issue. san luis rey downs, a training center 'may be back in the picture'. that's the place stronach, etc owns. has a one mile track.
fairplex would expand the 5f track to 6f, and add a five furlong turf track.
los al has a 5f track. they'd change it to 7f, but no turf track added.

5 furlong turf track? why even bother? Whatever the replacement track is, the quality of racing in So Cal will be diminished for sure