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I just figure that post number 4,871 for me isn't likely, statistically speaking, to be the first one in history that I'm able to make without him quoting it and basically calling me a dumb ****, regardless of the topic, tone, or content of my post. The above Coach bait is all I have to offer right now. |
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This is an attempt to stop the bleeding of participating, interactive members away from this forum by reinstating the politics room. |
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I'm sure I racked up 95% of my career posts here more than three or four years ago, and it's certainly not for a lack of interest in racing in the last three years. I'm more interested and invested now than I was five years ago. But I've got mine, and I'm sure everyone has their own reasons for not frequenting regularly. Mine was generally nasty attitudes that made it more work to post and participate than it was worth. Maybe that has to do with the politics room, maybe not. Either way, your point is spot-on. I've always been reading along even if I'm not posting, and my daily trip by usually lasts about three minutes these days. |
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Why don't you post a poll thread here to re-open the Politics/Society forum. Yes No Don't care I tried but don't know how to do the poll format...
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![]() i can't help but think that it will take me waaaay longer to get my next 24k posts than it took to get the first. it's too bad that a few bad apples spoiled that barrel for the rest of us. i miss it, i miss the discourse (altho it did get rough at times) and i still read stuff and think oh, i could...and then i remember we can't talk about such things here anymore.
slate is the only other place i post-and it's just not the same.
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![]() Let's get serious here...
Bring back the BEULAH thread ![]() everything else pales....
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![]() Sure you might get action in the political room, but the paddock will still be the sound of crickets...
Why and when did Indian Charlie leave? |
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I've been gone awhile....an certainly notice the ghost town atmosphere here lately....maybe Spyder is right about the Beulah thread...those fillies were .....well they were entertaining..
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![]() doesn't anyone have something clever to say about the races leading up to the Derby ?
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![]() I like Oxbow for the Derby. Four prep races (unheard of in this day of kid gloves) and he seems like a tough sob who actually thrives on racing. Now I must go shovel my driveway and walk the dogs. ![]()
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When this board was going great it's because there were great discussions on racing. People actually had opinions on races both before and after the races and shared them. I'm not sure why that doesn't happen anymore, but I just don't think people stopped talking racing because they couldn't argue the same political stance over and over again anymore. |
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![]() Purely my opinion, but I didn't think the Paddock was any more polite than the Politics Room was. In fact, many times I thought people were much nastier to each other in the Paddock. The Politics Room had actually been pretty civil the last few days of its existence, compared to before. It seemed a weird time to end it.
As someone who doesn't have the time to aggressively follow racing the way many of the more knowledgable posters here do, much as I enjoy reading threads in the Paddock, I was (and am) reluctant to share an opinion in the Paddock because of how nasty some posters could be in tearing apart someone else's opinion. Making other people feel stupid is not a good way to encourage participation, especially for novices like myself. On the bright side, there's not much of that going on now. On the not-bright side, there's not much of anything else going on there now. I also think Riot did a lot for keeping traffic moving in both rooms. She was extremely prolific, extremely opinionated and extremely polarizing and you could almost always count on a thread she posted in making for some very entertaining reading. Because people who didn't like her just couldn't stop themselves from replying to her posts. And hilarity would ensue. I really miss the Politics Room because it was one of the few places I know on the web where liberals and conservatives would regularly argue things on a more-or-less even footing. Probably because what brought us here was a common love of something else. It's a bummer, but, as Danzig said in a thread a few weeks ago, the lack of DT activity means I've been much more productive at work lately, so there's always a pony somewhere.
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![]() agree with everything you said. the paddock has had some real doozies. anytime someone came on there to talk about a good day or a good hit, they got everyone on them for redboarding. cause, you know, that's a grievous sin. instead of discourse, you've got people telling other people they're morons because of their view of a race. i know i'm unable to follow racing as much as i used to, which is a shame. i wish i had more time for it, but i don't.
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Hoss the 2 posters I mentioned by name are extremely knowledgeable horseplayers and while I'm not sure if IC actually bets, he knows more about horseracing than anyone I know. Both posters also frequented both rooms. I have it on good authority that he no longer even lurks here. To Nicole's point below, I could not even be certain what percentage of folks that frequented the Poly room were avid players, because the Paddock was so full of vitriol toward anyone that dared voice an dissenting opinion that most just avoided the conflict entirely. So I'm not prepared to assume nor draw the conclusion that just because they came here for the Poly room meant they were not horseplayers thus added no value to the horseracing discussions. Additionally, there were plenty of folks that went to both rooms and offered lucid, knowledgeable opinions on both topics, but without one, they no longer post in the other. How is it that 7 weeks out, the most attended thread in the Paddock is a frigging Tony Black retirement thread? In years past the Derby Trail target thread would have been 10 pages deep at this point. Cause / Effect would dictate that the lack of the Poly room is affecting not only overall attendance here, but quality horesracing discussion. Quote:
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Seems like what you guys are saying more than anything is the overall environment of the paddock was not so nice. and that people are hesitant to participate there because of not wanting to be disagreed with? Or disagreed with sarcastically or with vitriol? Yet you guys are clamoring for the room that was filled with nothing but vitriol where the posters who were hesitant to post in the paddock because of not wanting conflict....posted and engaged in conflicts. I guess it doesn't make much sense to me. why are people intimidated (for lack of a better word) about posting thoughts on racing because they don't want to be responded to a certain way....yet totally comfortable posting thoughts on politics where they are responded to as bad if not worse? |
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Seems pretty hypocritical to judge one, yet beg for the other back. |
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I think this is probably the busiest thread on the site right now, which tells a tale. And i agree with bob, i thought his post spoke for many here.
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You're right that people will spend a lot of time at a site for awhile and then move on, or not post as much; I see it at the political blogs I like to visit. Politics as a subject gets people riled up because everyone thinks they are an expert in it and, for whatever reason, people take having their opinion challenged personally. But because people feels secure that they KNOW what is right, they feel confident posting their opinion. In horse racing, you're pretty clearly and quickly proved right or wrong. The horse you like wins or doesn't. So there's not as much room to argue your position from an emotional standpoint. I love the way Jay Cronley defines value, for instance: "A horse that loses at a nice price." Heh. And it's not even that being wrong about a pick is bad; it's how people would express it. People would pose an opinion and get shot down, without any attempt to explain why their thoughts on a horse might be faulty. Well, thanks, I'm sure it makes FillintheBlank poster feel better about himself to tell me I'm a dumb c*nt because I like Lawyer Ron (RIP), but it doesn't help me become a better handicapper if said poster doesn't explain why he disagrees. And I'm not interested in FillintheBlank's self-confidence issues; I'm interested in becoming a better handicapper. Whether or not a horse is good has nothing to do with how I view the world; it's based entirely in what he's done. That's something that can be discussed intelligently without calling me or anyone else a dumb c*nt. And don't get me started on the cryptic "I'm going to tell you you are totally wrong about such-and-such, because I know someone who knows someone who told me what's really going on, but I'm not going to tell you the truth because it's all very secret. But it's very important I still point out you're wrong and that I know something you don't know because I have all the emotional maturity and social acumen of a teenage girl." Yeesh. That, at least, was something you never saw in the Politics Room!
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