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Old 03-14-2013, 07:42 AM
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Is that 3 for DWL in there or has one of those horses changed hands?
Just two. Oxbow and Will Take Charge.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:43 AM
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What's up with the undercard at Oaklawn on Saturday? Pretty weak.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:53 AM
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What's up with the undercard at Oaklawn on Saturday? Pretty weak.
They save most of the good stuff for the Festival of the South or whatever it is called.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:35 AM
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They save most of the good stuff for the Festival of the South or whatever it is called.
I know but it's a month away. How about an allowance race or two? I guess on the bright side the fields are big, which is good.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:54 AM
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Eoin Harty and Casner continue to refuse to give Right To Vote lasix. He goes in the last race on that OP card.

I know they're trying to prove a point and all, or something, but that horse would probably benefit from the medication judging by the way he's stopped so suddenly in his last two races.

I guess they're trying not to look hypocritical or whatever... but are you really hypocritical saying you're against something, and using it, if using it is legal, widely used, and prevents a specific horse or two from a disadvantage?
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:02 AM
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Eoin Harty and Casner continue to refuse to give Right To Vote lasix. He goes in the last race on that OP card.

I know they're trying to prove a point and all, or something, but that horse would probably benefit from the medication judging by the way he's stopped so suddenly in his last two races.

I guess they're trying not to look hypocritical or whatever... but are you really hypocritical saying you're against something, and using it, if using it is legal, widely used, and prevents a specific horse or two from a disadvantage?
Endorsement has slid into oblivion also, and his performances look like they have a lot to do with him not taking medication.

As far as these races go, Don't Tell Sophia is poised to exploit the overrated My Miss Aurelia. Don't Tell Sophia's last two races were excellent.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:20 PM
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Agreed.

The 7th Race is for $16,000 claimers.

Seven races into a big card and this is what Oaklawn delivers, when its next big card is four weeks away?

Also, the big fields are great, but it's not as if you can play Pick 3s out of the box; you have to wait until Race 4, I believe.


If NYRA offered this...
I'm waiting to see how many races can go off at the same time or within two minutes of Gulfstream, Aqueduct, Fair Grounds, Santa Anita. I'll set the line at 6.5
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:12 AM
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What a bunch of whiners. Unless you live in Illinois, there's not really anything to b.itch about.
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Old 03-16-2013, 09:42 AM
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I don't mind the cheaper races since the fields are big. However, Oaklawn's wagering menu is deplorable.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:17 PM
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Just two. Oxbow and Will Take Charge.
My bad...got title contender mixed up with titletown five. Thanks.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:39 PM
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Just two. Oxbow and Will Take Charge.



"I felt pretty good 100 yards from the wire" Lukas said.

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Old 03-16-2013, 07:54 PM
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The form of the Remsen horses doesn't seem to match the solid speed figure they earned.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:07 PM
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The form of the Remsen horses doesn't seem to match the solid speed figure they earned.
Technically speaking, that figure is solid ... the top three just haven't handled the long layoffs.

The Remsen figure was very fast the year To Honor and Serve beat Mucho Macho Man.

To Honor And Serve was a soundly beaten 3rd in each of his next two starts in Derby preps at Gulfstream. He was sixth in the Amsterdam in his next start after that. Ended up winning a pair of Grade 1 races later on, but was certainly no superstar.

Mucho Macho Man was 4th in the Holy Bull as a beaten favorite in his comeback. He was 2nd in last years BC Classic and has proven a very good horse on his day.

In more recent history, there are a lot of form reversals both ways with early season 3-year-olds. We've already had a 100/1 longshot win a major prep at FG. Will Take Charge was beaten 18 lengths by Super Ninety Nine a few weeks ago under a lot of very different circumstances -- It'smyluckyday was nowhere with a clear wide trip in the Delta Jackpot, he's blitzing them in Florida now.

Form can get pretty fickle with these delicate young horses.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:15 PM
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http://www.drf.com/sites/default/fil...nd%20Serve.pdf

http://www1.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby...MachoManPP.pdf

Mountain Town, who finished 3rd in that Remsen, never ran another race.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:39 AM
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Just two. Oxbow and Will Take Charge.
Nice pick
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:09 AM
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Nice pick
Funny, I was only answering Herk's question about how many Lukas entrants were in the race. If only it were that easy!
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:16 AM
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Virtually identical final times in the Azeri and Rebel yet a giant difference in the fractional times. Once again, Oxbow didn't win, but ran a superior race to the winner. As for the Azeri, how could a closer overcome the 1:14 1/5 pace and run down the two heavy chalks? My Miss Aurelia just isn't as good as many thought.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:40 PM
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As for the Azeri, how could a closer overcome the 1:14 1/5 pace and run down the two heavy chalks? My Miss Aurelia just isn't as good as many thought.
Tiz Miz Sue's performance was quite alarming. Hard to believe she was able to circle around the two favorites and win, both of them laid way off of the very slow early pace.

I wonder what kind of odds she would have traded at with four furlongs to go if we had In-Race Exchange betting.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:39 PM
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Funny, I was only answering Herk's question about how many Lukas entrants were in the race. If only it were that easy!
And this has been today's example of why context is important. If only the media could grasp this.
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