Has any horse in history ever done less & was 12/1 to win the Derby two months out?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by pweizer

It doesn't look like Flashback is facing any killers in the San Felipe this Saturday where he will be odds on. If he wins (and I will certainly look to bet against), he will have much lower derby odds soon.

Paul

Is Flashback even better than Goldencents? I'm sure he'll be favored Saturday but I am far from convinced.

The fact that Flashback went off the shortest price of any of the Baffert horses in the pool is comical.

[santana]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Is Flashback even better than Goldencents? I'm sure he'll be favored Saturday but I am far from convinced.

The fact that Flashback went off the shortest price of any of the Baffert horses in the pool is comical.

Which of Bafferts horses should have been a lower price ?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by santana

Which of Bafferts horses should have been a lower price ?

Super Ninety Nine for sure.

[Calzone Lord]

Based on what can be measured after just 2 starts, I don't see anything to suggest Flashback is a better horse than fellow Baffert Governor Charlie.

A lot of stable hype has been there with Flashback since the start of his career.

[Linny]

Verrazzano was favored and hasn't run in a stake yet.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Linny

Verrazzano was favored and hasn't run in a stake yet.

Yes, but his most recent race was fantastic.

A horse he beat by 16.5 lengths last time just won an entry level alw race on dirt at Gulfstream last Saturday.

His figure was huge on everyones numbers and the performance was confirmed.

With Flashback, it is more about stable buzz and how he trains.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yes, but his most recent race was fantastic.

A horse he beat by 16.5 lengths last time just won an entry level alw race on dirt at Gulfstream last Saturday.

His figure was huge on everyones numbers and the performance was confirmed.

With Flashback, it is more about stable buzz and how he trains.

If I had to choose between the two, I would rather have Baffert as my trainer.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Is Flashback even better than Goldencents? I'm sure he'll be favored Saturday but I am far from convinced.

The fact that Flashback went off the shortest price of any of the Baffert horses in the pool is comical.

Goldencents is certainly more established. I may be a little interested in Salutos Amigos.

Oh, and of the Bafferts, I would take Super 99 over Flashback at double the price all day long.

Paul