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Old 01-06-2013, 01:03 PM
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They use a 10-5-1 point system for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. So, 3rd does count for a point and 2nd certainly matters.

If Wise Dan is your horse of the year -- he should certainly be in the top 3 in some other category. Logic dictates.
About the scoring, the prelim process (10-5-1) identifies the 3 finalists but the 1st place votes then determine the winner. That's what I mean about the importance of the first place vote and the rest being window dressing.

The thing about logic dictating in this process is that there are plenty of elements to these discussions where logic is belied. As Privman said on Loose on the Lead today when I asked him, every year is a free standing circumstance and since there is no set formula for "older horse" v. "turf horse", voter perception rules. Yes the older horse and turf horse and HOY can colide -- John Henry -- but when Kotashaan was HOY and grass champion, Bertrando was best older male. If Kotashaan was HOY, why wasn't he top older male too?

My inclination is to reward everyone that was worthy and since there is a format available to acknowledge the best 'handicap' (dirt) elder -- Fort Larned -- the best 'traditional' grass horse -- Little Mike -- and the best horse overall for the year -- Wise Dan -- I chose to take advantage of it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:34 PM
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Rock on Dale wins trainer of the year!!!
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:45 PM
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Wow, Questing beat My Miss Aurelia 106 to 102. What a squeaker.

Who did Pincay III say was his favorite older male horse to ride? My video got all tied up in knots right there and I missed it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:50 PM
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Wow, Questing beat My Miss Aurelia 106 to 102. What a squeaker.

Who did Pincay III say was his favorite older male horse to ride? My video got all tied up in knots right there and I missed it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:03 PM
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:05 PM
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Congrats to Dale Romans !!!
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:22 PM
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Baffert had a pretty ridiculous year. One of his best in a long time.

In a sport where so much attention is put on the triple crown series and Breeders Cup ... I suppose if a trainer goes winless in both it costs them. For a lot of people, horse racing is nothing but the Triple Crown series and Breeders Cup.

29% wins and $1.84 ROI from more than 500 starters and it seemed like his horses were being annoyingly overbet all year long.

When your ROI is half the takeout and everything you send out is getting hammered, that's pretty wild. Even with the BC and Triple Crown series flops, his win percentage in Graded Stakes was 26%.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:41 PM
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Affirmed.
Thanks. I guess I meant Pincay II. Oops. Both of 'em on stage threw me on the Roman numerals.


Turns out Wise Dan knew he was gonna win HOY: http://twitter.yfrog.com/0fszyiituyvmmxlppvwzhvlsz I love how when she called to him, he just rushes right over to the door.

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Old 01-20-2013, 04:28 AM
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Congrats to all the winners.

I was listening on sirius and Romans sounded as if he was starting to cry.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:31 PM
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I see that Frankel got one vote for HOY.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:50 PM
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Looking like a Dan sweep!
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