DRF has a poll -- Bernardini is still most popular

Calzone Lord · #1 12-21-2012, 11:20 PM

You <3 Barbaro. I get it.

Bernardini's Preakness was at least as good as Barbaro's Derby...and he repeated that level of performance over and over all season long.

Barbaro is a case of what might have been...Bernardini is a case of what was.

Barbaro has nothing to do with Bernardini in any way shape or form...other than the fact that one emerged in the same race the other got hurt.

Indian Charlie · #2 12-21-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

You <3 Barbaro. I get it.

Bernardini's Preakness was at least as good as Barbaro's Derby...and he repeated that level of performance over and over all season long.

Barbaro is a case of what might have been...Bernardini is a case of what was.

Barbaro has nothing to do with Bernardini in any way shape or form...other than the fact that one emerged in the same race the other got hurt.

Sharp points!

Bernardini was the master of soft field perfect trip walkover type performances.

I'll give you that.

cmorioles · #3 12-21-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Barbaro has nothing to do with Bernardini in any way shape or form...other than the fact that one emerged in the same race the other got hurt.

Sounds like a Donn I remember.

Sightseek · #4 12-22-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

You <3 Barbaro. I get it.

Bernardini's Preakness was at least as good as Barbaro's Derby...and he repeated that level of performance over and over all season long.

Barbaro is a case of what might have been...Bernardini is a case of what was.

Barbaro has nothing to do with Bernardini in any way shape or form...other than the fact that one emerged in the same race the other got hurt.

You and Charlie bring out the best in each other and Bernardini is the magic that inspires horse racing talk on this forum again.

Win. Win.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 12-22-2012, 10:01 AM

if invasor didnt dodge bern at his prime..toga 06..he may have shut him up.he crushed blue grass cat..lol and a poor ride in the bc classic didnt do him any favors..ive got one of his shoes that tom albatrani gave me..i think bern was a great horse.

blackthroatedwind · #6 12-22-2012, 02:38 PM

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if invasor didnt dodge bern at his prime..toga 06..he may have shut him up.he crushed blue grass cat..lol and a poor ride in the bc classic didnt do him any favors..ive got one of his shoes that tom albatrani gave me..i think bern was a great horse.

How exactly was Invasor going to race him at Saratoga in 2006?

Indian Charlie · #7 12-22-2012, 02:41 PM

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How exactly was Invasor going to race him at Saratoga in 2006?

I think he is confused.

I'm sure he was thinking of the Whitney, but how it was Invasor ducking a race that he actually won is a bit puzzling.

Sightseek · #8 12-22-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think he is confused.

I'm sure he was thinking of the Whitney, but how it was Invasor ducking a race that he actually won is a bit puzzling.

I thought that perhaps he meant Invasor not running at Belmont in the fall.

blackthroatedwind · #9 12-22-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think he is confused.

I'm sure he was thinking of the Whitney, but how it was Invasor ducking a race that he actually won is a bit puzzling.

He thinks because Invasor won the UAE Derby that year that he was a 3YO...but he wasn't.

Or he thinks he skipped a race that he won.

My imagination begins to wane after this.

Indian Charlie · #10 12-22-2012, 03:00 PM

Yeah, I didn't consider Sighty's theory as well.

Sighty's theory makes the most sense, now that I think about it, since I guess it's possible to think Invasor ducked Bernardini in a race that was possible for both to be in.

Wait, didn't Invasor win the Suburban too?

Wow, this is confusing!

cmorioles · #11 12-22-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think he is confused.

I'm sure he was thinking of the Whitney, but how it was Invasor ducking a race that he actually won is a bit puzzling.

He is obviously thinking of the JCGC, but that is at Belmont.

Indian Charlie · #12 12-22-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

You and Charlie bring out the best in each other and Bernardini is the magic that inspires horse racing talk on this forum again.

Win. Win.

We are trying.

However, his mediocre opinions can be hard to take.

Calzone Lord · #13 12-22-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

You and Charlie bring out the best in each other and Bernardini is the magic that inspires horse racing talk on this forum again.

Win. Win.

I didn't bet on Bernardini in the BC Classic and I didn't rate him quite as high as some did...but I do believe he was best in that race. I think any competent trip handicapper would agree.

Any discussion of Bernardini involving IC really has nothing to do with Bernardini ... all things Bernardini gets hijacked into Barbaro by IC.

Yet, when anyone brings up Empire Maker and Funny Cide... thankfully he doesn't try to shift the discussion to his wonder horse that season, Man Among Men.

Indian Charlie · #14 12-22-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I didn't bet on Bernardini in the BC Classic and I didn't rate him quite as high as some did...but I do believe he was best in that race. I think any competent trip handicapper would agree.

Any discussion of Bernardini involving IC really has nothing to do with Bernardini ... all things Bernardini gets hijacked into Barbaro by IC.

Yet, when anyone brings up Empire Maker and Funny Cide... thankfully he doesn't try to shift the discussion to his wonder horse that season, Man Among Men.

LOL.

Not going to hit that bait, but good try!

cmorioles · #15 12-22-2012, 03:31 PM

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I didn't bet on Bernardini in the BC Classic and I didn't rate him quite as high as some did...but I do believe he was best in that race. I think any competent trip handicapper would agree.

No, not really. I think if Bernardini was in his normal position, since the pace was pretty hot, he still would have been run down by Invasor. I could be wrong, but I don't think it is clear either way. Invasor's versatility was proven, Bernardini's wasn't.

blackthroatedwind · #16 12-22-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

No, not really. I think if Bernardini was in his normal position, since the pace was pretty hot, he still would have been run down by Invasor. I could be wrong, but I don't think it is clear either way. Invasor's versatility was proven, Bernardini's wasn't.

I agree with Doug. Castellano panicked, thinking he wasn't running, and asked WAY too soon. I made plenty of money with Invasor winning, but he shouldn't have.

cmorioles · #17 12-22-2012, 05:32 PM

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I agree with Doug. Castellano panicked, thinking he wasn't running, and asked WAY too soon. I made plenty of money with Invasor winning, but he shouldn't have.

Certainly possible, but did we have any proof Bernardini could win from that position in a route? Very few horses with his style are successful with that maneuver.

blackthroatedwind · #18 12-22-2012, 05:34 PM

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Certainly possible, but did we have any proof Bernardini could win from that position in a route? Very few horses with his style are successful with that maneuver.

He lost by a half length, after a premature move, which is enough proof for me, even though I get your point.