Hunters Are Awesome

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

except that many are limited to wknd hunting, and no sundays means they're limited to saturday only.

as for the latter, wear orange. i wear it when i walk around where we live during hunting season, because we're in the country.

Yeah, I'm sure the orange vest will keep a horse quiet when guns are firing. A lot of hikers and horseback riders are also limited to weekends only, so they too, are only getting one day a week. It seems a reasonable share to say one weekend day off so other weekend warriors can enjoy their own sports safely.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Yeah, I'm sure the orange vest will keep a horse quiet when guns are firing. A lot of hikers and horseback riders are also limited to weekends only, so they too, are only getting one day a week. It seems a reasonable share to say one weekend day off so other weekend warriors can enjoy their own sports safely.

people hunt from horseback around here. and hunters are limited to a few weeks a year, whereas everyone else has all year long.
and there are a lot more places to go hiking and riding, whereas hunters are limited to where they can go. not exactly a fair sharing of areas.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Yeah, I'm sure the orange vest will keep a horse quiet when guns are firing. A lot of hikers and horseback riders are also limited to weekends only, so they too, are only getting one day a week. It seems a reasonable share to say one weekend day off so other weekend warriors can enjoy their own sports safely.

There isn't enough orange in the world for me to risk my horse.

They also run deer in VA with dogs which bothers a lot of horses even more than the occasional gun fire.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

There isn't enough orange in the world for me to risk my horse.

They also run deer in VA with dogs which bothers a lot of horses even more than the occasional gun fire.

Is that both weekend days, or is there a safe day for riding?

My elderly gelding is a former Queens trail horse; he crossed a busy parkway every day without turning a hair and dealt in the park with loose dogs, joggers, people running those stupid motorized toy cars that are louder than real ones, etc.. But when I took him to my uncle's after I bought him when the stable closed, he absolutely freaked at the first gunshots. And they were some distance away. Fortunately, he was in an enclosed paddock and I was not on his back at the time.

There's a reason police horses have to be desensitized to gunshots before they can work for the force. It's not the horse's safety; it's the safety of the officer on his back.

[Honu]

Where I grew up in western PA if there was not hunting season the deer would die of starvation or be killed more than they already are crossing roads and highways to find food. I guess if the non kill people would like to invest their time and money sterilizing deer and making sure there is enough food for them to get through the winter then I guess I would agree to stricter hunting laws. But as it is I have no problem with legal hunting, there is a reason for it like it or not.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Honu

Where I grew up in western PA if there was not hunting season the deer would die of starvation or be killed more than they already are crossing roads and highways to find food. I guess if the non kill people would like to invest their time and money sterilizing deer and making sure there is enough food for them to get through the winter then I guess I would agree to stricter hunting laws. But as it is I have no problem with legal hunting, there is a reason for it like it or not.

And, as has been said before, hunting really does provide economic incentive for habitat preservation. In addition, to some extent, it also provides incentive for public lands. People have a right to declare no hunting on their own properties, so public lands and forests become even more essential to preserve and not sell off to private interests.

One of the books I recorded this year was a text on European history. For a long time, hunting was absolutely forbidden if you weren't a nobleman. If you owned no land of your own, you could not hunt because you were "stealing" some nobleman's game. Even something a small as a rabbit.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And, as has been said before, hunting really does provide economic incentive for habitat preservation. In addition, to some extent, it also provides incentive for public lands. People have a right to declare no hunting on their own properties, so public lands and forests become even more essential to preserve and not sell off to private interests.

One of the books I recorded this year was a text on European history. For a long time, hunting was absolutely forbidden if you weren't a nobleman. If you owned no land of your own, you could not hunt because you were "stealing" some nobleman's game. Even something a small as a rabbit.

yeah, you'd be killed for 'poaching the kings/earls deer'.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And, as has been said before, hunting really does provide economic incentive for habitat preservation. In addition, to some extent, it also provides incentive for public lands. People have a right to declare no hunting on their own properties, so public lands and forests become even more essential to preserve and not sell off to private interests.

One of the books I recorded this year was a text on European history. For a long time, hunting was absolutely forbidden if you weren't a nobleman. If you owned no land of your own, you could not hunt because you were "stealing" some nobleman's game. Even something a small as a rabbit.

In traditional foxhunting attire the direction of the bow strings running up or down on the back of your helmet signified if you were a land owner or not. I wonder if this 'rule' began when this law was changed or because the noblemen did bring their non land owning stable hands as mounted grooms along with them? (I'm too short on time to research this right now )

[SOREHOOF]

I live in Whitetail mecca (Catskills). I don't know one single person who doesn't eat what they kill, or one morsel that goes uneaten. I understand people who have a mostly urban background may have a different outlook on hunting. There is a lot more habitat due to out of business farms, mild winters, and a lot fewer hunters over the years. Hotels, eateries,bars, sport shops all suffering or out of business. The deer thrive. Body shops thrive. Ever hit a deer? I live amongst these beautiful animals and I wouldn't hesitate to eat most any one of them, and I think a lot of them would feel the same way about me. The alternative to hunting is a controlled kill by the all-providing Govt. at your expense. The State Govt. makes a pretty good buck selling Hunting Licenses. BTW New York State is very friendly to hunting and fishing. World Class.