un palestine vote, 1947

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just didn't realize that the original intent was for that land to be split between the two. that hasn't happened. is it giving land back if it wasn't supposed to be held to begin with? i get that israel was attacked-does that justify holding land that is supposed to belong to the palestinians? should palestine essentially be punished because other countries attacked israel? i don't know. i don't know if anyone knows. it's a bad situation all the way around.

and the highlighted...the palestinians want the homeland they were promised. it has nothing to do with whether they are arabs or not.
hell, we sure didn't tell the kuwaitis they could live elsewhere when iraq invaded. they're all arabs too.

There would have never been a problem if the Arabs would have accepted the original land split. If you keep declaring war and you keep losing the wars, you will probably lose some land. By the way, much of the land taken was land that wasbeing used to wage attacks. It was strategic land. I'll bet if Canada kept waging war on us and they kept attacking us from a hill by the border, at some point we would probably take that hill by the border.

All this stuff happened 40-60 years ago. I think people need to move on. Mexico is not still crying over the land that we took from them. I think most people in the US are pro-Israel. But there are certainly some people that are extremely pro-Palestinian and they think that Israel should give land back to the Palestinians. I wonder if these same people would be in favor of us giving a lot of land back to Mexico and back to the Indians.

With regard to Iraq and Kuwait, Iraq attacked Kuwait and tried to take their land. If it was the other way around and Kuwait had attacked Iraq, I don't think people would have complained if Iraq was victorious and took some land away from Kuwait.

Here is some good info about the whole Israel/Palestinian conflict:

http://www.targetofopportunity.com/p...nian_truth.htm

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...elligence.html


read that a few minutes ago on slate.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...elligence.html


read that a few minutes ago on slate.

Now even the United States is ticked off.

c'mon Bibi loosen up...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...elligence.html


read that a few minutes ago on slate.

When Abbas gives speeches in English, he sounds like a moderate. But when he gives speeches in Arabic, he calls for the destruction of Israel.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

When Abbas gives speeches in English, he sounds like a moderate. But when he gives speeches in Arabic, he calls for the destruction of Israel.

that would be surprising since the palestinian authority has recognized israel as a state with a right to peaceful existence for almost 20 years and plenty of israeli's speak arabic.

do you have a credible source for this incredible claim?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

that would be surprising since the palestinian authority has recognized israel as a state with a right to peaceful existence for almost 20 years and plenty of israeli's speak arabic.

do you have a credible source for this incredible claim?

maybe he's confusing abbas with hamas?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

that would be surprising since the palestinian authority has recognized israel as a state with a right to peaceful existence for almost 20 years and plenty of israeli's speak arabic.

do you have a credible source for this incredible claim?

Do a search for "Abbas calls for the destruction of Israel". By the way, Abbas' Fatah party still calls for the destruction of Israel in their charter.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Do a search for "Abbas calls for the destruction of Israel". By the way, Abbas' Fatah party still calls for the destruction of Israel in their charter.

i did a search along those lines earlier. didn't find anything.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i did a search along those lines earlier. didn't find anything.

"Indeed, the very day after his Israel television interview, Abbas told an Arab news station that he had not abandoned what he calls the "Palestinian right of return," indicating that his end goal remains the destruction of Israel as the Jewish state."

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsIte...4/Default.aspx

And Hamas still openly calls for the destruction of Israel. Many Palestinians still support Hamas. What percentage of the Palestinian population supports the destruction of Israel? It has to be 80-90%.

All Abbas is doing is carrying on the same strategies that Arafat used. Here is a quote from Arafat:
"Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel." (Yasser Arafat speaking on Jordanian television, September 13, 1993)

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...#ixzz2EDJdp435