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Cannon Shell · #1 11-26-2012, 09:03 PM

ND is not only the most hated team but the most popular as well. That makes them special simply because as Danzig has pointed out money is more important than fairness in college football. The schedule they play is fine. They are an indepenent and have to play who they can schedule. Lets face it there are 5 good SEC teams and the rest stink. Some of the teams that they are playing in November is embarrasing. (Jacksonville state, Western Carolina)

Florida needed a miracle to beat LA-Lafeyette at home a few weeks ago so no tears for them.

IMO Alabama is the best team in the country but they have so many built in advantages that they can't complain about the system.

IMO Notre Dame might be the 7th or 8th best team.

BUT the fact is ND has done what the system rewards and by not losing they get their chance. They are the one team that will get a fair chance to win the title. Alabama will probably beat GA and get a chance though I'm not sure that they deserve the chance more than many of the other 1 loss teams or even A & M who beat them on their home field. That is the issue that I have always had with the BCS especially when compared to the basketball tourney. Be realistic if you arent an SEC team you have to go undefeated and even then you better be from a big conference and start off the year ranked. Why have 124 Div 1 teams if only 12 (or less) have any prayer of winning the title?

RockHardTen1985 · #2 11-26-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

ND is not only the most hated team but the most popular as well. That makes them special simply because as Danzig has pointed out money is more important than fairness in college football. The schedule they play is fine. They are an indepenent and have to play who they can schedule. Lets face it there are 5 good SEC teams and the rest stink. Some of the teams that they are playing in November is embarrasing. (Jacksonville state, Western Carolina)

Florida needed a miracle to beat LA-Lafeyette at home a few weeks ago so no tears for them.

IMO Alabama is the best team in the country but they have so many built in advantages that they can't complain about the system.

IMO Notre Dame might be the 7th or 8th best team.

BUT the fact is ND has done what the system rewards and by not losing they get their chance. They are the one team that will get a fair chance to win the title. Alabama will probably beat GA and get a chance though I'm not sure that they deserve the chance more than many of the other 1 loss teams or even A & M who beat them on their home field. That is the issue that I have always had with the BCS especially when compared to the basketball tourney. Be realistic if you arent an SEC team you have to go undefeated and even then you better be from a big conference and start off the year ranked. Why have 124 Div 1 teams if only 12 (or less) have any prayer of winning the title?

7th or 8th best? Who are the 6 or 7 teams better?

Cannon Shell · #3 11-27-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

7th or 8th best? Who are the 6 or 7 teams better?

Alabama
LSU
Florida
Oregon
Stanford
Texas AM
Georgia

RockHardTen1985 · #4 11-27-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Alabama
LSU
Florida
Oregon
Stanford
Texas AM
Georgia

My list... In order.

1. Notre Dame
2. Alabama
3. Stanford
4. Ohio St
5. Florida
6. Texas AM
7. Georgia
8. Oregon

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 11-28-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

My list... In order.

1. Notre Dame
2. Alabama
3. Stanford
4. Ohio St
5. Florida
6. Texas AM
7. Georgia
8. Oregon

mine

florida
texas am
georgia
notre dame
alabama
ohio state
stanford
zenyatta

RockHardTen1985 · #6 11-28-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

mine

florida
texas am
georgia
notre dame
alabama
ohio state
stanford
zenyatta

Zenyatta is solid at 8.

King Glorious · #7 11-27-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

ND is not only the most hated team but the most popular as well. That makes them special simply because as Danzig has pointed out money is more important than fairness in college football. The schedule they play is fine. They are an indepenent and have to play who they can schedule. Lets face it there are 5 good SEC teams and the rest stink. Some of the teams that they are playing in November is embarrasing. (Jacksonville state, Western Carolina)

Florida needed a miracle to beat LA-Lafeyette at home a few weeks ago so no tears for them.

IMO Alabama is the best team in the country but they have so many built in advantages that they can't complain about the system.

IMO Notre Dame might be the 7th or 8th best team.

BUT the fact is ND has done what the system rewards and by not losing they get their chance. They are the one team that will get a fair chance to win the title. Alabama will probably beat GA and get a chance though I'm not sure that they deserve the chance more than many of the other 1 loss teams or even A & M who beat them on their home field. That is the issue that I have always had with the BCS especially when compared to the basketball tourney. Be realistic if you arent an SEC team you have to go undefeated and even then you better be from a big conference and start off the year ranked. Why have 124 Div 1 teams if only 12 (or less) have any prayer of winning the title?

I agree with all of this with one exception. I think Notre Dame might be the 10th or 11th best team. If they were playing today, I would take Alabama, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ohio St, Oregon, South Carolina, and Texas A&M over them and maybe Florida St. I think Georgia beats them by at least 10 and Bama by at least 17.

IrishofNDMan · #8 11-27-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I agree with all of this with one exception. I think Notre Dame might be the 10th or 11th best team. If they were playing today, I would take Alabama, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ohio St, Oregon, South Carolina, and Texas A&M over them and maybe Florida St. I think Georgia beats them by at least 10 and Bama by at least 17.

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

Dahoss · #9 11-27-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

Having an opinion different than yours isn't hatred. This is like the Zenyatta nonsense all over again.

Look, I love Da Hoss the horse and think he was special. But I'm not going around calling people haters that don't agree with how good I thought he was.

I don't agree with King's opinion, but I don't think it's THAT crazy. Is it really that stupid to think all of those teams could beat Notre Dame in one game?

jms62 · #10 11-27-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

What year did you graduate from ND?

GBBob · #11 11-27-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

What year did you graduate from ND?

He went to Michigan State

IrishofNDMan · #12 11-27-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

What year did you graduate from ND?

This again lol I'm a subway alumni

Cannon Shell · #13 11-27-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I agree with all of this with one exception. I think Notre Dame might be the 10th or 11th best team. If they were playing today, I would take Alabama, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ohio St, Oregon, South Carolina, and Texas A&M over them and maybe Florida St. I think Georgia beats them by at least 10 and Bama by at least 17.

I dont think Ohio State is that good. South Carolina has never won a big game in its history. FSU is a questionable IMO