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Old 11-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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I read the Examiner article, Rupert (no need to read the WND one as A) WND is crazy town and B) the Examiner article cites the WND article as its source). It's stuff like this that really makes me think right-wing sites just think their readers are idiots (I don't think you're an idiot, Rupert). From the article:

"... in St. Lucie County, the unofficial vote count showed 175, 554 registered voters but 247, 713 vote cards were cast, coming to 141.10%."

Which sounds awful... if one's reading comprehension skills are not good enough to note the writer's use of "cards" not "ballots." And in a quick search of information, in fact, one so short it need go no farther than the comment section below the article itself, a person discovers that the St. Lucie County ballot was 2 pages long, meaning each person cast 2 "cards" though only one vote (one does wonder about the voter who only submitted one page- moron, or just really not interested in down-ticket races?) So, in fact, fewer than 124,000 votes were cast. Math, how does it work again?

The same comment includes a link to a source that breaks down the county vote and none of them went 100 percent for Obama.

So, there's how I explain that- the writer assumes his right-wing readers will blindly accept anything that reinforces their own prejudices, and so feels perfectly fine about lying to them, knowing full well those readers won't say, "This sounds a little preposterous" and do the research to see if the allegation has any merit.
There were several cities in states like Colorado where there are now more registered voters than people. How can you have more registered voters than residents?
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:54 PM
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There were several cities in states like Colorado where there are now more registered voters than people. How can you have more registered voters than residents?
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:03 PM
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If you try to take dead people off the voter registers, democrats will accuse you of trying to suppress votes. I'm not kidding. They will fight every attempt at eliminating voter fraud. When states try to take illegal aliens, convicted felons, or dead people off the rolls, the Justice Department and the dems will try to put a stop to it. If states try to make people show ID, the dems and Justice Department will try to prevent it. Any attempts to prevent voter fraud are fought tooth and nail.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:09 PM
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...im-Voter-Fraud

Irrespective of what the actually voting age population in Wood County was, the only question we need to answer is how many people in Wood County actually voted. And that is an easy question to answer. Just look it up at Google where a colorful map is provided. Click on a state, and then within the state you will find the vote breakdown for each individual county.


Now please correct me if my arithmetic is wrong, but the way I learned to add: 31,596 + 28,997 + 896 equals 61,489. Oh the horror! The fraud! Call the police! Only 57.87% of the 106,258 registered voters in Wood County actually voted! What happened? The one sentence the author of the petition was correct about: It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote! Perhaps that's why only 57.87% of the people on the voter rolls actually voted. Or if you want to go with that 98,213 number of citizens of voting age, it's still only 62.61%. It certainly isn't anywhere near 108%. But hey, arithmetic is hard for some people.




not sure how many here think dailykos is a good or a bad site, but they had the math.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:33 PM
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...im-Voter-Fraud

Irrespective of what the actually voting age population in Wood County was, the only question we need to answer is how many people in Wood County actually voted. And that is an easy question to answer. Just look it up at Google where a colorful map is provided. Click on a state, and then within the state you will find the vote breakdown for each individual county.


Now please correct me if my arithmetic is wrong, but the way I learned to add: 31,596 + 28,997 + 896 equals 61,489. Oh the horror! The fraud! Call the police! Only 57.87% of the 106,258 registered voters in Wood County actually voted! What happened? The one sentence the author of the petition was correct about: It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote! Perhaps that's why only 57.87% of the people on the voter rolls actually voted. Or if you want to go with that 98,213 number of citizens of voting age, it's still only 62.61%. It certainly isn't anywhere near 108%. But hey, arithmetic is hard for some people.




not sure how many here think dailykos is a good or a bad site, but they had the math.
Dailykos is not a reputable site. However, they do get it right sometimes, just like WND. Their math may be right in this case. The bad thing about all of these sites is that they intentionally try to mislead you. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, I always thought the republicans were a lot more honest than the dems. It wasn't often that they intentionally tried to mislead you. Nowadays, the two sides are pretty hard to separate. They are both extremely dishonest. You really can't take anything you read at any of these sites at face value. Even the stuff that sounds like it has to be right often turns out to be very misleading and sometimes turns out to be false.
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Dailykos is not a reputable site. However, they do get it right sometimes, just like WND. Their math may be right in this case. The bad thing about all of these sites is that they intentionally try to mislead you. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, I always thought the republicans were a lot more honest than the dems. It wasn't often that they intentionally tried to mislead you. Nowadays, the two sides are pretty hard to separate. They are both extremely dishonest. You really can't take anything you read at any of these sites at face value. Even the stuff that sounds like it has to be right often turns out to be very misleading and sometimes turns out to be false.

Waddaya mean? they are as reputable as Fox.....not sayin much huh...
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Dailykos is not a reputable site. However, they do get it right sometimes, just like WND. Their math may be right in this case. The bad thing about all of these sites is that they intentionally try to mislead you. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, I always thought the republicans were a lot more honest than the dems. It wasn't often that they intentionally tried to mislead you. Nowadays, the two sides are pretty hard to separate. They are both extremely dishonest. You really can't take anything you read at any of these sites at face value. Even the stuff that sounds like it has to be right often turns out to be very misleading and sometimes turns out to be false.
but the post came from "hungrycoyote"...it has to be true.
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Yikes........but that's only in Chi town...
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There were several cities in states like Colorado where there are now more registered voters than people. How can you have more registered voters than residents?
it's hard to respond to a post like this where no names or links are provided. GR reponded to your earlier post with a pretty clear explanation.

is this "several cities in colorado" another wnd story?

the specifics would allow some follow up. on it's face, the allegation appears ridiculous but so did anti's post until you read the linked article.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:22 PM
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it's hard to respond to a post like this where no names or links are provided. GR reponded to your earlier post with a pretty clear explanation.

is this "several cities in colorado" another wnd story?

the specifics would allow some follow up. on it's face, the allegation appears ridiculous but so did anti's post until you read the linked article.
"In Colorado, where non-photo identification is accepted, a review by RedState.com showed irregular voting patterns, finding that 10 counties had a total registration ranging between 104 to 140 percent of the respective populations."

"When Media Trackers requested comment on the voter bloat in one area, Gilpin County, the county’s chief deputy Gail Maxwell explained, “This is just a reminder Gilpin is a Gaming Community. The voters come and go!”

"RedState notes records show some of the counties in question maintained statistically unusual voting figures. Gilpin County had a 61 percent voter turnout in the 2010 election, and Hinsdale County had an astounding 92 percent voter turnout. Those figures are far above the Colorado average turnout of 48 percent and the national average of 41 percent."

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-this-...obama-elected/
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