National Presidential Election contest thread

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

why is everyone so upset that we re-elected a moderate republican?

The facade will come off since he doesnt have to run for office anymore.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The facade will come off since he doesnt have to run for office anymore.

and pass what through the house?

[joeydb]

This country is done. It will be like Detroit.

With the same chance of getting a Republican in office. You won't recognize it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

This country is done. It will be like Detroit.

With the same chance of getting a Republican in office. You won't recognize it.

Then move. Nice touch "Like Detroit"'

[Danzig]

oh. my. goodness. just saw this message at the bottom of an article i just read about how the 'war on women' may have helped out some female candidates. thought i'd share.


Jerry-1927474
You people in the swing states who voted for obama will rue this day, you are complicit in the destruction of America. You people who call yourselves Christian and you voted for Obama need to just stop living a lie and go ahead and fall down and worship your true father Satan. I will not ask God to have mercy on this immoral, sinful, country. I will pray that he returns very soon. I was actually fooled on this one, I really did not believe that there were this many ignorant blinded people in America. It is as the Lord said, their eyes will not see the evil, they will readly except the evil into their heart and it will turn to stone.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_party_s.html

an excerpt:

But even a clumsy candidate might have beaten Obama if not for a simple factor that could not be overcome: the GOP’s growing extremism. The Republican strategy of making the election a referendum on the president’s handling of the economy was perfectly sound. The problem was that the Republican Party couldn’t pass the credibility test itself. For many voters disenchanted with Obama, it still was not safe to vote for his opponent.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_party_s.html

an excerpt:

But even a clumsy candidate might have beaten Obama if not for a simple factor that could not be overcome: the GOP’s growing extremism. The Republican strategy of making the election a referendum on the president’s handling of the economy was perfectly sound. The problem was that the Republican Party couldn’t pass the credibility test itself. For many voters disenchanted with Obama, it still was not safe to vote for his opponent.

This is very well said. Look at these threads on this board. How many posts did you see about birth certificates vs. GDP?

Romney needed to go so far right in order to get through the primary that it was near impossible for him to get close enough to the center to win the general election. His campaign did a phenomenal job to get that close.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_party_s.html

an excerpt:

But even a clumsy candidate might have beaten Obama if not for a simple factor that could not be overcome: the GOP’s growing extremism. The Republican strategy of making the election a referendum on the president’s handling of the economy was perfectly sound. The problem was that the Republican Party couldn’t pass the credibility test itself. For many voters disenchanted with Obama, it still was not safe to vote for his opponent.

You beat me to it...I was going to post this..highlighting the growing extremism


Slate OPINION: Mitt Romney lost the election because he couldn't separate himself from the Republican Party’s growing extremism.

OPINION: What ought to pain Republicans most about Barack Obama’s victory is that 2012 was entirely winnable for them. In European elections over the past few years, voters have thrown out leaders who were in charge during the worst of the financial crisis, whether those leaders deserved the blame or not. Economic indicators in the United States, where an unemployment rate of 8 percent is highly correlated with defeat for the incumbent party, pointed in the same direction. Obama himself had proven a disappointment to many of his former supporters, going from a beloved symbol of generational and social change in 2008 to a detached and remote figure, with limited ability to touch an emotional chord in the electorate.

That Mitt Romney lost nonetheless is in part a tribute to his own weaknesses as a candidate. The Obama campaign put Romney on the defensive early about his work at Bain Capital, and left him there. The Republican nominee made any number of horrendous gaffes. He ran a disastrous GOP convention. He never found a way to talk about himself or his agenda in a way that middle class voters could relate to.

But even a clumsy candidate might have beaten Obama if not for a simple factor that could not be overcome: the GOP’s growing extremism. The Republican strategy of making the election a referendum on the president’s handling of the economy was perfectly sound. The problem was that the Republican Party couldn’t pass the credibility test itself. For many voters disenchanted with Obama, it still was not safe to vote for his opponent


http://news.msn.com/politics/why-mitt-romney-lost

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by joeydb

This country is done. It will be like Detroit.

I'm thinking more like Californee.


Look for

comprehensive immigration "reform," with its sole goal of increasing the Democratic base,

even greater division on the basis of gender, race, party and religion,

unelected regulatory agency rulemakers run amok,

steady increase in federal debt,

stagflation,

continued Congressional gridlock, with the President attempting to bypass it with executive branch fiat,

a higher likelihood of going over the fiscal cliff,

and generally lowered expectations and acceptance of the new norm

to name a few.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I'm thinking more like Californee.


Look for

comprehensive immigration "reform," with its sole goal of increasing the Democratic base,

even greater division on the basis of gender, race, party and religion,

unelected regulatory agency rulemakers run amok,

steady increase in federal debt,

stagflation,

continued Congressional gridlock, with the President attempting to bypass it with executive branch fiat,

a higher likelihood of going over the fiscal cliff,

and generally lowered expectations and acceptance of the new norm

to name a few.

Absolute lock that we go over the cliff. You can thank those who view any form of compromise as defeat. Kind of like a kid holding their breath until they get their way.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Absolute lock that we go over the cliff. You can thank those who view any form of compromise as defeat. Kind of like a kid holding their breath until they get their way.

I want to go over the cliff. It's easy, and it's exactly what is needed. The GOP has been buffaloed on this, they have lost 100% of their power and negotiation ability now, and Boehner knows it - which is why, today, he's talking tax increases

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

and pass what through the house?

Exactly. Thats the point. He will go on the offensive coming up with things that they know the GOP will block, trying to blame the GOP for the continued slide in order to influence the midterms to regain control. The thought of this election's results providing either side that idea that working across the aisle is a good one is laughable. The Dems will arrogantly believe the GOP's misteps which cost them the Senate and Presidency are somehow a mandate that they can push through more tax hikes like Obamacare and the seemingly endless beaucracy they love to assemble. And on the other side the GOP might learn from its mistakes and continue the ultra-partisan path that they have chosen many times to defend the turf that they have.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by richard

Huge downer with his speech. The most powerful man in the world comes out , after hours of time, with his kids and wife. Where's the leadership? This is high school stuff. It was a troubling response to winning the election. Something is not right with this. The international community was totally ignored. Not befitting of the president.

Are you serious? What an odd thing to say.

First: Romney refused to concede for an hour after Ohio didn't even matter any more. That added to the 45 minutes where it was clear the President won but not all of Ohio was in. There's your delay

Every single president elected in our lifetimes comes out the night they win with their wife, kids and relatives. Kennedy did, Nixon did, Bush did, Carter did, Reagan did, Clinton did, Bush II did ...

The international community is deliberately ignored in an election win speech, because it's pure politics on this night. There is no place for discussing international dealings in the winning speech. Not the place.

That said, Obama's speech was outstanding, and universally praised by everyone. You are free to have your own opinion, obviously, but wow.