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10-26-2012, 03:08 PM
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10-26-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'm not saying that I agree with the Senate candidate but let me ask those of you that believe in God a question. Does anything ever happen that God does not intend to happen?
For the record, if I had a daughter and she was raped (by a stranger, not a date rape), I would definitely advice her to have an abortion. Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 10-26-2012 at 05:24 PM.
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10-26-2012, 03:54 PM
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10-26-2012, 04:01 PM
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10-26-2012, 05:05 PM
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10-26-2012, 05:08 PM
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10-26-2012, 06:26 PM
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it used to be that free will was considered blasphemy. that everything had been pre-ordained. well, if that was the case, then why did the criminal have to serve time, since god pre-ordained he commit the crime? how could the thief be held to blame? god had decided.. it was questions like those that helped lead to free will gradually becoming the accepted teaching. but then, i've been told by exercising my free will 'in the wrong way' i was going to hell. i told the woman who said that to me, that god was definitely a sneaky fellow. if it's free will, but there are rules about how you use it, it's not so free, is it? at any rate, the contortions by pro-lifers to somehow still tie things into god's big plan can become rather comical at times. but then, not quite so comical when you know they are completely serious about changing everyone's rules to how they feel things should be. and i'm sure they can show you passages in the bible to support the view that women should do as they're told. cause that's how god wants it. why else would the bible say it? (probably because men in positions of power decided what was included in the 'holy book'????). on another note...i really wish that people would stop quoting others. perhaps you could say 'to so and so'. that way i don't have to read such drivel as 'not a date rape' from a poster i have on ignore. wtf is that supposed to mean? rape is rape is rape. i don't care if you effing know the guys name-if you say 'no', and he forces you-hello, that's a crime. it's an assault. after all, if sandusky molested his nephew instead of a camp kid, does that lessen the crime?
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10-26-2012, 08:26 PM
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If I am an evil person and I kill someone, I would argue that God could have stopped me if he wanted to. If he is omnipotent, he could do anything. That is the definition of omnipotent. If he is not omnipotent, then what is so great about God? But assuming that he is omnipotent and he didn't stop me from killing someone, that still would not affect my culpability for the crime. There is a big difference in saying "he didn't stop me" vs saying "he forced me to do it". Just because God allows something to happen, that doesn't mean he forced it to happen. There is a big difference. With regard to my quote about date rape vs being raped by a stranger, you misunderstood what I was saying. My point was that most people would be sickened by the thought of carrying the baby of some homeless guy (or some psycho off the street that raped them). I think most people would find it repulsive. They may or may not have the same level of disgust if they were raped by a friend or by someone that they were romantically interested in. If a girl was pretty religious and she was against abortion, she might be able to make a case to herself to carry the baby to term if she was raped by a friend or by a one-time romantic interest. I would have to think it would be impossible to make a case for carrying the baby of some psychopath off the street. By the way, I think it is hilarious that you have me on "ignore". I had no idea you had me on "ignore". I get along with every person on this board, regardless of their politics.
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10-26-2012, 09:23 PM
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There is no chance Roe vs Wade gets overturned regardless of who is elected. It is simply a Democratic scare tactic.
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10-27-2012, 01:41 AM
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10-27-2012, 04:16 AM
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And of course, it's not really about abortion; it's about women's freedom, as the fight over whether a company has more religious rights than an individual when it comes to women's contraception, shows. Women who do not have control over their reproductive lives are not free. They aren't. I had a wanted pregnancy, and it still takes over your life and body, and, in my case, was in danger of killing me at the end- I had to be induced early because my blood pressure hit seizure levels and I was at risk of stroke. A friend of mine did have a stroke after having a baby. Another died last year on the operating table delivering twins. Pregnancy and childbirth are f*cking dangerous. And these were all wanted pregnancies, and, in the case of my friends, everything was fine, right up until delivery, so there was no sense that their lives or health were at risk. The GOP proposes forcing women to risk their lives and health, in fact, give them up, for pregnancies they don't want. And that will leave thousands of children without mothers, because the majority of women seeking abortion ALREADY HAVE AT LEAST ONE CHILD. It's not all teenagers who didn't use condoms. One out of three women have an abortion before the age of 45. Most, if not all of us know someone who has had one. This isn't a scare tactic; this is a genuine possibility and it's really scary. Women will die. And it's right there in the national GOP platform- no abortion under any circumstances. That's what they support. Look it up. This is what happens when religious zealots get into government. Freedom goes away. The Democrats are using this as a scare tactic because women should be scared.
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10-27-2012, 10:15 AM
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10-27-2012, 02:38 PM
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My only point was that if it was some homeless guy or psychopath off the street that committed the rape, I can't imagine any woman wanting to carry the baby to term, not even a very religious woman.
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10-27-2012, 03:15 PM
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"If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think" - Clarence Darrow, American lawyer (1857-1938) When you are right, no one remembers;when you are wrong, no one forgets. Thought for today.."No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong" - Francois, Duc de la Rochefoucauld, French moralist (1613-1680)
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10-27-2012, 03:23 PM
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10-27-2012, 03:45 PM
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10-27-2012, 03:25 PM
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You're right homeless guys are the epitome of 'good guys' in the PC Obama world.
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10-27-2012, 03:42 PM
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10-27-2012, 04:04 PM
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remember this guy, one of the few recovering homeless addicts..perfect voice.. http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/13/...-homeless-man/
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10-26-2012, 03:34 PM
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