Obama - not liked internationally?

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

That chart is not surprising and I'm sure is an accurate reflection.

If anyone remembers the Bush VS Gore election -- pretty much every country in the world preferred Gore by insane margins even wider than those.

Our democratic politicians come across as conservatives to the rest of the world ... and our republican politicians come across as wildly deranged and unstable psychopaths to the rest of the world.

Imagine if you live in another country -- and you hear Romney talk about how we need a larger Navy. Our military is laughably stronger than everyone elses and we spend money on defense like we're about to be invaded by some aliens who have superior firepower.

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize and he's a certified war criminal.

And they were on target..and if not for his brother's state, no recount,hanging chads and SCOTUS there would never have been a president g w bush...

[Calzone Lord]

The people who live in foreign countries feel threatened by any American president or wanna be American president who believes in a God in the sky and is the commander and chief of a military that can wipe everyone off the face of the planet.

There are some born again Christians and Mormons who would be just fine with an apocalypse.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The people who live in foreign countries feel threatened by any American president or wanna be American president who believes in a God in the sky and is the commander and chief of a military that can wipe everyone off the face of the planet.

There are some born again Christians and Mormons who would be just fine with an apocalypse.

[joeydb]

If France likes Obama, that's reason enough for him to go.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

And they were on target..and if not for his brother's state, no recount,hanging chads and SCOTUS there would never have been a president g w bush...

A few hundred votes ahead, popular vote won, and the Supreme Court ordered vote counting to stop and declared the other guy the winner.

And there never would be 57,000 dead in Iraq. Or trillions in debt.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

A few hundred votes ahead, popular vote won, and the Supreme Court ordered vote counting to stop and declared the other guy the winner.

And there never would be 57,000 dead in Iraq. Or trillions in debt.

What would Al Gore have done on September 12, 2001?

You have no answer, no one does, not even Al Gore, so determining anything after that date is just more nonsense out of you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

What would Al Gore have done on September 12, 2001?

You have no answer, no one does, not even Al Gore, so determining anything after that date is just more nonsense out of you.

I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

Let alone go on to invade a country that had nothing the hell to do with it, killing thousands of Americans and citizens for nothing.

And your pretending it wouldn't have been different under a different president is just more ridiculous nonsense out of you. Go vote for Romney and get your Social Security and Medicare taken away, while you pay for his tax cuts and send our children to die in Iran for Bibi.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

Let alone go on to invade a country that had nothing the hell to do with it, killing thousands of Americans and citizens for nothing.

And your pretending it wouldn't have been different under a different president is just more ridiculous nonsense out of you. Go vote for Romney and get your Social Security and Medicare taken away, while you pay for his tax cuts and send our children to die in Iran for Bibi.

Gores' statements and actions in the past? What exactly do you mean?
Read an actual book as opposed to blog posts and theories/rhetoric about 9/11 warnings, I suggest Ghost Wars, http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Wars-Afg.../dp/1594200076 you might actually learn something as opposed to parroting whatever nonsense you read in the newspaper or internet.
I am 37, SS and Medicare are things I will continue to pay for and never see.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Gores' statements and actions in the past? What exactly do you mean?

That my guess about what would have happened in the world under a Gore presidency is exactly as accurate as your guess.

But envisioning an American invasion of Iraq for no reason shouldn't have remotely be on anybody's radar screen - and wasn't even in the Bush presidency. Even after 9/11. It took Bush a while to use 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq.

Yes - I feel pretty damn confident saying that an Al Gore presidency would not have involved an invasion of Iraq and the deaths of thousands of Americans in that country.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

That my guess about what would have happened in the world under a Gore presidency is exactly as accurate as your guess.

Guessing is all we have. Gore included.

[Clip-Clop]

Try this one too, might give you some insight into the middle east.
http://www.onlythingworthdyingfor.com/
I have both in paper copies and will happily mail them to you if you promise to read them before the election.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

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Yeah, we all know how tough Gore's boss (Clinton) was on Bin Laden.. and that 9/11 planning occured on Both Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney watch.

another completely ignorant statement by riot.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Yeah, we all know how tough Gore's boss (Clinton) was on Bin Laden.. and that 9/11 planning occured on Both Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney watch.

another completely ignorant statement by riot.

LOL - Not as ignorant as you saying Gore would behave based upon how Bill Clinton did.

Seriously - when you guys attack another poster in politics personally and call names (because you can't talk subject matter objectively) it really helps if you're not actually demonstrating the behavior you are accusing the other person of doing at the time you make the accusation.

BTW, Clinton seriously warned Bush about bin Laden, didn't he? And Bush just dropped that ball. Repeatedly.

Get real Facts matter.

[Antitrust32]

Clinton should have done his job and got bin Laden when he had the opportunity.

again, the only thing dems and riot have to go on is blaming bush.

"So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, ’cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn’t and that’s how he wound up in Afghanistan."

this is a direct quote from Bill Clinton himself.