Quite a finale at KEE Friday..

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Kasept

As a stand alone entity Doug, it's fine. To me though, it's a bad end to a high quality sequence. The 3rd just now had 12 horses in a 6f $30k MCLM where there were 2 FTS and 10 that had been out already. That's at least a quality group with some reliable form and a pair upon which to speculate on breeding/workouts. Why not use that as the nightcap? $7,500 claimers -- and mostly from connections less familiar to a wide player audience -- going 9f is a potential staggerfest that involves a lot of guesswork.

I didn't see anything even remotely quality or interesting about that entire group.

Here is the horse who won that race:



She's obviously a vastly inferior horse to any decent $7,500 open claiming male ... they would tear her apart.

She won at 3/1 odds after failing at 2/5 odds at Turfway Park at the same class level last time out. The horses that finished 2nd and 3rd to her are the two first-time starters. Obviously -- they would have been the interesting horses -- merely because the experienced horses were all either bums or hard to trust winning.

That race involves WAY more guesswork than the $7,500 claimer race and that race will take about a 76 Beyer to win -- I think a lot of people prefer routes to sprints...so the "staggerfest" comment doesn't make sense to me.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I didn't see anything even remotely quality or interesting about that entire group. Here is the horse who won that race:



She's obviously a vastly inferior horse to any decent $7,500 open claiming male ... they would tear her apart.

She won at 3/1 odds after failing at 2/5 odds at Turfway Park at the same class level last time out. The horses that finished 2nd and 3rd to her are the two first-time starters. Obviously -- they would have been the interesting horses -- merely because the experienced horses were all either bums or hard to trust winning.

That race involves WAY more guesswork than the $7,500 claimer race and that race will take about a 76 Beyer to win -- I think a lot of people prefer routes to sprints...so the "staggerfest" comment doesn't make sense to me.

This is clearly a capping 'comfort zone' or familiarity/preference thing. (And add in the weighing of stand alone v. multi-race.) I would think players have balanced preference on sprints & routes.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Kasept

This is clearly a capping 'comfort zone' or familiarity/preference thing. (And add in the weighing of stand alone v. multi-race.) I would think players have balanced preference on sprints & routes.

Perhaps.

That abortion of a 30K maiden claiming race -- even with a big field -- is the type of race I wouldn't ever touch with a 10-foot pole unless I had some compelling reason to believe one of the first-time starters could run.

I'm not someone who plays many multi-win wagers -- because I often focus on dozens of tracks and races where my stable alert horses are entered back in.

Still, if I was someone who just picked a track and insisted on playing a full card at said track, it's rare that you see a bad open $7,500 claimer anytime the field size is up over 7. To me, that's a class level that generally equals good and interesting horse racing.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Perhaps.

That abortion of a 30K maiden claiming race -- even with a big field -- is the type of race I wouldn't ever touch with a 10-foot pole unless I had some compelling reason to believe one of the first-time starters could run.

I'm not someone who plays many multi-win wagers -- because I often focus on dozens of tracks and races where my stable alert horses are entered back in.

Still, if I was someone who just picked a track and insisted on playing a full card at said track, it's rare that you see a bad open $7,500 claimer anytime the field size is up over 7. To me, that's a class level that generally equals good and interesting horse racing.

Well who you like in this nightcap? P5 about to commence.. I thought the 7 was the fun price to play with. Then 1-6-2.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Well who you like in this nightcap? P5 about to commence.. I thought the 7 was the fun price to play with. Then 1-6-2.

I like the 3 and 5 assuming they can avoid pressuring each other. Both figure to be about 8/1 and both will be very tough without pressure.

If the two riders handle it tactically smart -- one of them really should win.

If the pace winds up contested it obviously favors the 1. Hopefully the 5 is loose and the 3 is rating off of him and no one else does anything dumb.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I like the 3 and 5 assuming they can avoid pressuring each other. Both figure to be about 8/1 and both will be very tough without pressure.

If the two riders handle it tactically smart -- one of them really should win.

If the pace winds up contested it obviously favors the 1. Hopefully the 5 is loose and the 3 is rating off of him and no one else does anything dumb.

THX.. I tried to squeeze the 5/6 (coming from that 10f spot at TP) out and thought the 3 assured some pace from all of them.