Who will you vote for?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

You need to stop in more often. Ri(di)ot doesn't know how to handle you.

Well, other than the 5 years of me being pretty consistent in the way I've always "handled" Morty

Sometimes I really wonder if some Derby Trail members actually read Derby Trail .... ?

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, other than the 5 years of me being pretty consistent in the way I've always "handled" Morty

Sometimes I really wonder if some Derby Trail members actually read Derby Trail .... ?

Well....they do

And that is the #1 reason you will never be a serious contender for junior ombudsman.

If there is no crack in your pipe, there should be.

[joeydb]

Currently (at 7:20am EDT):

12 votes for Obama
13 votes for Romney
and
3 votes for Johnson

I hope those so inclined will see that a vote for Johnson is basically a vote for Obama. In other words the vote for the admittedly disadvantaged third party under our electoral system only raises the probability that the candidate you like the least (Obama even if you are Libertarian) will win.

[Antitrust32]

I actually dislike Romney and Obama equally. I don't believe the Republican Party is conservative anymore, and I have disgust for their pandering to the religious right.

To me, Obama has been no different than Bush. I dont believe Romney will be any different than Bush. You guys are voting for the same man.

I'll stick with voting 3rd party.. as nothing will ever change unless the American people demand change.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I actually dislike Romney and Obama equally. I don't believe the Republican Party is conservative anymore, and I have disgust for their pandering to the religious right.

To me, Obama has been no different than Bush. I dont believe Romney will be any different than Bush. You guys are voting for the same man.

I'll stick with voting 3rd party.. as nothing will ever change unless the American people demand change.

I respect your principles - however the math of it shows you will be aiding Obama in re-election. Just keep that in mind. If that's OK with you, good. You should be aware of both your intention and the likely effect of your decision.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I respect your principles - however the math of it shows you will be aiding Obama in re-election. Just keep that in mind. If that's OK with you, good. You should be aware of both your intention and the likely effect of your decision.

When did you become the father of the board?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

When did you become the father of the board?

Never said I was. Did what I said not make logical sense?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I respect your principles - however the math of it shows you will be aiding Obama in re-election. Just keep that in mind. If that's OK with you, good. You should be aware of both your intention and the likely effect of your decision.

i suppose you think that saying it enough times will make it so.

unless a third party candidate garners enough votes to get electoral votes in his column, the only impact is on the overall popular vote. altho ross perot received 19% of the popular vote, thus keeping clinton from potentially receiving more than 50% of the vote, he received no electoral votes.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i suppose you think that saying it enough times will make it so.

unless a third party candidate garners enough votes to get electoral votes in his column, the only impact is on the overall popular vote. altho ross perot received 19% of the popular vote, thus keeping clinton from potentially receiving more than 50% of the vote, he received no electoral votes.

Are you kidding?

You are correct of course about the electoral vote, but obviously the vote that did not go to which candidate has a chance to win that is still more favorable to the third-party voter than the Democrat does have an impact.

Count the votes on the top of this page. If the Johnson votes went to Romney instead, doesn't the result become clearer? It is much more likely that the third-party voter will lose the election for Romney than win it for Johnson - astronomically so.

So again - in 2012 - with the polls where they are - even plus or minus 10% for Obama or Romney - a vote for Johnson is equivalent to a vote for Obama.

That is the math of it, and all the motivation, justification, and hand-wringing before and after casting the vote is meaningless. The MATH is all that MATTERS as that is what drives the RESULT.