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10-01-2012, 05:38 PM
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Ellis is a fine trainer and has been for a while. Was Rail Trip ever a victim of a Ron Ellis bias? Sure, he's a miserable analyst who is often unprepared and rarely adds anything, but he's a very good horse trainer. 
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10-01-2012, 06:27 PM
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I also think the lack of pace in the race is what did Include Me Out in.
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10-01-2012, 06:31 PM
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I know, but that's not the case.
If you think Include Me Out was trained by Hollendorfer or Sadler she'd have the following that horses like Royal Delta, Awesome Feather, Questing, and My Miss Aurelia have? Not a chance. Blind Luck didn't get a ton of respect just because Hollendorfer trained her -- she had a much better resume than Include Me Out and she was a better horse than her, plain and simple.
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10-01-2012, 07:28 PM
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The better question about Include Me Out is what the hell was she doing so far back behind a slow pace early.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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10-01-2012, 07:42 PM
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I've heard Ron Ellis talk a lot over the years (unfortunately) -- and knowing how square he is, he complained about the ride she got when Talamo was over aggressive at Hollywood two back, and he's the type of person who would want the horse finishing as well as possible at 8.5f to "set her up" for 9f.
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10-01-2012, 08:24 PM
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10-01-2012, 09:57 PM
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