Time for Goodell to go

docicu3 · #1 09-25-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

the initial call was an abomination. not overturning it is inexplicable.

the nfl absolutely should overturn it. there's no excuse for allowing that to stand.

As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

horseofcourse · #2 09-25-2012, 07:12 AM

Roger Goodell is simply behaving as most professional pimps do. 30 some years ago they got other air traffic controllers trained. The war on labor has been ongoing forever. This is simply the latest. Goodell DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS. He'll get what he wants. Most pimps do.

Danzig · #3 09-25-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Roger Goodell is simply behaving as most professional pimps do. 30 some years ago they got other air traffic controllers trained. The war on labor has been ongoing forever. This is simply the latest. Goodell DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS. He'll get what he wants. Most pimps do.

war on labor?! refs are laborers now? they want to make a ton of money for a few hours work part of the year. sorry, i don't agree that the refs are correct in this matter.

horseofcourse · #4 09-25-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

war on labor?! refs are laborers now? they want to make a ton of money for a few hours work part of the year. sorry, i don't agree that the refs are correct in this matter.

yes they are. it's an incredibly difficult and specialized job. extremely unimportant in the scheme of life, but so is the quarterback's job extremely unimportant in life's scheme. the pay they want is not even remotely close to the players. the refs are correct, the end.

Danzig · #5 09-25-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

yes they are. it's an incredibly difficult and specialized job. extremely unimportant in the scheme of life, but so is the quarterback's job extremely unimportant in life's scheme. the pay they want is not even remotely close to the players. the refs are correct, the end.

the pay shouldn't be remotely close. last i heard the refs were asking for 20 million more than the league was offering.
i find that absurd.

and it's not hard-we all make calls at home all the time!!!

horseofcourse · #6 09-25-2012, 07:46 AM

and of course the refs are laborers, to think otherwise is simply wrong.

Danzig · #7 09-25-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

and of course the refs are laborers, to think otherwise is simply wrong.

i appreciate you giving your opinion.

Danzig · #8 09-25-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

i know it's never been done.
but that doesn't mean it can't be done now. what's worse? the failure to overturn the horrible call during review, or letting seattle 'win' a game it clearly didn't.
in the past, when you've had bad calls, it hasn't necessarily been the last call as time expired. it's time to set precedent-don't let an awful call stand here, there's no reason to let it stand.
and the guy who said the ruling stood, who reviewed it, he should be sacked. he shouldn't be able to call peewee football, let alone a professional game.

cmorioles · #9 09-25-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i know it's never been done.
but that doesn't mean it can't be done now. what's worse? the failure to overturn the horrible call during review, or letting seattle 'win' a game it clearly didn't.
in the past, when you've had bad calls, it hasn't necessarily been the last call as time expired. it's time to set precedent-don't let an awful call stand here, there's no reason to let it stand.
and the guy who said the ruling stood, who reviewed it, he should be sacked. he shouldn't be able to call peewee football, let alone a professional game.

Watching Mike and Mike this morning, and there is a rule where the commissioner, and only the commissioner, can overturn the result. In this case, if they admit the call was wrong, how can they not?

Of course I'm betting they somehow try to explain that the call is not clear cut or something to that effect. It is hilarious watching this covered on NFL Network. They are trying to spin it like it was the right call.

3kings · #10 09-25-2012, 09:00 AM

These refs have been afraid to make tough calls against the home team from the start but last night was rediculous. The NFL should be ashamed of what they are putting out there because it is affecting the outcome of games.

Crown@club · #11 09-25-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Watching Mike and Mike this morning, and there is a rule where the commissioner, and only the commissioner, can overturn the result. In this case, if they admit the call was wrong, how can they not?

Of course I'm betting they somehow try to explain that the call is not clear cut or something to that effect.

Yea, we are suppose to get a written statement by the NFL explaining the ruling last night. Can't wait to read that BS.

3kings · #12 09-25-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Watching Mike and Mike this morning, and there is a rule where the commissioner, and only the commissioner, can overturn the result. In this case, if they admit the call was wrong, how can they not?

Of course I'm betting they somehow try to explain that the call is not clear cut or something to that effect.

They won't change the result because of the gambling factor. The NFL claims to abhor gambling but they know there is a direct correlation between gambling dollars and their popularity.

wiphan · #13 09-25-2012, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

The damage is done, you can't change what has been done now. The ref that signalled touch down and the ref that reviewed the play had to have some large

on the game because no one in their right mind can say that was a catch and a TD unless of course you received your education at Notre Dame

Danzig · #14 09-25-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

The damage is done, you can't change what has been done now. The ref that signalled touch down and the ref that reviewed the play had to have some large

on the game because no one in their right mind can say that was a catch and a TD unless of course you received your education at Notre Dame

i was simply amazed, and appalled, that they upheld that ruling on review. bad enough the initial mistake was made by one ref-but to let it stand? inconceivable!

MaTH716 · #15 09-25-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i was simply amazed, and appalled, that they upheld that ruling on review. bad enough the initial mistake was made by one ref-but to let it stand? inconceivable!

Are the replay officials replacement too?

Danzig · #16 09-25-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Are the replay officials replacement too?

nope.

which makes the call that much worse. if they are supposed to know better, since they're the 'real' folks, than what's their excuse?

the replacements refs are bad-but the regular refs come up with some doozies too.

MaTH716 · #17 09-25-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

nope.

which makes the call that much worse. if they are supposed to know better, since they're the 'real' folks, than what's their excuse?

the replacements refs are bad-but the regular refs come up with some doozies too.

This to me this is the much bigger story. The replacement officials are nothing more than scabs who are doing there best. Obviously they are in WAY over their heads. The fact that an regular NFL official/employee didn't overturn the call from the booth, magnifies the whole incident by 1000. That's the guy who should be terminated on the spot this morning.

Calzone Lord · #18 09-25-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

The fact that an regular NFL official/employee didn't overturn the call from the booth, magnifies the whole incident by 1000. That's the guy who should be terminated on the spot this morning.

By rule, he can't.

Simultaneous possession can't be challenged or overturned by review.

The replacement guys, in a lot of instances this week, have shown that they don't know all of the rules.

GBBob · #19 09-25-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

The damage is done, you can't change what has been done now. The ref that signalled touch down and the ref that reviewed the play had to have some large

on the game because no one in their right mind can say that was a catch and a TD unless of course you received your education at Notre Dame

Not that it matters in the scheme of things because there were bad calls on Seattle too, but the earlier PI on Shields was atrocious and they gave the kicking ball to Rodgers on the 2pt conversion.

Danzig · #20 09-25-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Not that it matters in the scheme of things because there were bad calls on Seattle too, but the earlier PI on Shields was atrocious and they gave the kicking ball to Rodgers on the 2pt conversion.

that was unreal also.
and they can't count yards either. on sunday, they assessed 20 yards for a 15 yard penalty in the 'skins game. you'd think they could keep track of how many white lines to cross.