Romney - Holding a 14 point advantage with Middle Class

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i ask the following as someone who is truly curious about what is seen by those supporting mitt-and as someone who isn't supporting the president either.
how will romney get control of the deficit? like i said earlier, economists have said his talk on taxes is mathematically impossible.
romney wants to grow defense spending. how will that help the deficit? how does that give less govt.?
what entitlement programs do you feel are unnecessary and unaffordable that the fed can cut? what is romneys solution in this area? i don't know of one.
how does romney's and ryans positions on womens reproductive rights square with 'less government'?
unions aren't destroying the country. banking is doing a good job of it tho. romney wants to remove banking regs. how will that help?
our stance on israel hasn't changed in decades. obama's take on them has been no different than previous administrations.
do you feel that the current economic sanctions that are harming iran are in fact not working? what will romney do that will keep them from going nuclear that will be better than what we're doing now?

I find it interesting that you have been on this kick lately of demanding those who support Romney as to why they do. I can't recall you telling us why Obama is a better choice then Romney.

Is it his economic policies which have increased the real unemployment rate to well almost 11% and put more people on public assistance than ever before in our country? Is it Obamacare because it is going to ballon the deficit and because government does ANYTHING better than the private sector? Is it his foreign policy where he is allowing the Iranian's to get closer to getting a nuclear bomb by the day hoping that sanctions will stop them? Is it his lack of additional security on 9/11 which led to the death of an ambassador despite knowledge that terrorists have attacked embassies on 9/11 in the past?

You want entitlement programs to cut, then lets start with Acorn and a laundry list of similar programs which should not get taxpayer money. You think our stance has not changed on Israel? Is that why Netanyahu has taken a pretty unprecedented step of involving himself in another country's election by openly campaigning for Romney?

So tell us since you seem to know and ask everyone else to answer, what are Obama's policies that are better than the ones that Geek has outlined?

I would like to thank Geek for taking the time that I did not have earlier. Sure seems like a lot of policies for someone who has none.

[geeker2]

When I go to Obama's site I can't seem to get past

ARE you IN?


and when I put in my fake email and zip I get to this....

Your plane ticket and hotel are covered.
Make a donation today to be automatically entered to win dinner with President Obama.
If you're selected, we'll fly you out to meet the President for dinner on the campaign trail.

At least Romney tried to put up some useful stuff -you may not like it..but it is out there

http://www.mittromney.com/issues


http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitt...middle-class01

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

I find it interesting that you have been on this kick lately of demanding those who support Romney as to why they do. I can't recall you telling us why Obama is a better choice then Romney.

Is it his economic policies which have increased the real unemployment rate to well almost 11% and put more people on public assistance than ever before in our country? Is it Obamacare because it is going to ballon the deficit and because government does ANYTHING better than the private sector? Is it his foreign policy where he is allowing the Iranian's to get closer to getting a nuclear bomb by the day hoping that sanctions will stop them? Is it his lack of additional security on 9/11 which led to the death of an ambassador despite knowledge that terrorists have attacked embassies on 9/11 in the past?

You want entitlement programs to cut, then lets start with Acorn and a laundry list of similar programs which should not get taxpayer money. You think our stance has not changed on Israel? Is that why Netanyahu has taken a pretty unprecedented step of involving himself in another country's election by openly campaigning for Romney?

So tell us since you seem to know and ask everyone else to answer, what are Obama's policies that are better than the ones that Geek has outlined?

I would like to thank Geek for taking the time that I did not have earlier. Sure seems like a lot of policies for someone who has none.

i don't think obama is a good choice, and he won't be getting my vote. but, neither will romney. and romney says he's going to hang the moon-i wonder just how he'll do that. like i said, most of that is rehashed from countless campaigns. none of it ever happens.
30 years from now, we'll still be nibbling around the edges, while defense, ss/medicare and the interest on all our debt will be all that the fed will be able to support.
romney wants to jack with taxes-maybe he wants to get his effective rate below 10%? and he wants to remove bank regs, and put in new ones-exactly what will those be? what will they accomplish that's different from the current regs?

as for sanctions on iran, yeah, they are working.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

I find it interesting that you have been on this kick lately of demanding those who support Romney as to why they do. I can't recall you telling us why Obama is a better choice then Romney.

Is it his economic policies which have increased the real unemployment rate to well almost 11%

No, the "real" unemployment rate you are referring to has fallen from 15% to 11% due to Obama's economic policies. If you are going to use it, you have to use it honestly. Unemployment has dropped, and 4.6 million jobs have been created.

Considering Bush put us in a hole by losing 9 million jobs in his recession, that 3-year result is certainly headed in the right direction.

and put more people on public assistance than ever before in our country?

Nonsense. What a false flag. "Obama" hasn't put anybody on public aid. People qualify for public aid. Obama hasn't changed the qualifications. Bush was the last president to ease those. Oh - and that giant recession of Bush, and the 50-year-transfer of wealth vastly enlarging our poverty class is not Obama's fault and everyone knows it.

Is it Obamacare because it is going to ballon the deficit

False. Provide proof of this, it's a weird claim that nobody has made. Probably because the program is paid for and was scored as deficit-neutral.

and because government does ANYTHING better than the private sector?

Government sure does Medicare better than private insurance: it costs less to provide much better service.

Is it his foreign policy where he is allowing the Iranian's to get closer to getting a nuclear bomb by the day hoping that sanctions will stop them?

The sanctions are working, and our allies admit that. Don't fall for Bibi and Romney's war-mongering.

Is it his lack of additional security on 9/11 which led to the death of an ambassador despite knowledge that terrorists have attacked embassies on 9/11 in the past?

You completely ignore the situation in Libya making that statement. Oh - and the reason why the Ambassador was at that consulate.

You want entitlement programs to cut, then lets start with Acorn

LOL ! Acorn hasn't existed for a couple years - it went out of business after the House cut it's funding based upon a faked video from Breitbarts boy.

Obama is doing just fine, thanks. You're free to provide some facts and figures to support your contentions. Or better yet, show any plan at all of Romney's that has some specifics. Romney's financial plan has been scored as immediately adding $5 trillion to our deficit due to his tax cuts, recalling Obamacare, etc.

[pointman]

"No, the "real" unemployment rate you are referring to has fallen from 15% to 11% due to Obama's economic policies. If you are going to use it, you have to use it honestly. Unemployment has dropped, and 4.6 million jobs have been created.

Considering Bush put us in a hole by losing 9 million jobs in his recession, that 3-year result is certainly headed in the right direction."

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzucke...dream-is-a-job

"Nonsense. What a false flag. "Obama" hasn't put anybody on public aid. People qualify for public aid. Obama hasn't changed the qualifications. Bush was the last president to ease those. Oh - and that giant recession of Bush, and the 50-year-transfer of wealth vastly enlarging our poverty class is not Obama's fault and everyone knows it."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this...ruin-your-day/

"False. Provide proof of this, it's a weird claim that nobody has made. Probably because the program is paid for and was scored as deficit-neutral. "

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/201...s-his-critics/

"Government sure does Medicare better than private insurance: it costs less to provide much better service."



"The sanctions are working, and our allies admit that. Don't fall for Bibi and Romney's war-mongering."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...mq5ceqOCVTtDlL

"You completely ignore the situation in Libya making that statement. Oh - and the reason why the Ambassador was at that consulate."

The Ambassador should have been secure, particularly on that day. Period.

"LOL ! Acorn hasn't existed for a couple years - it went out of business after the House cut it's funding based upon a faked video from Breitbarts boy."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/repo...s-still-exist/