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Old 09-19-2012, 08:44 PM
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What a coincidence that the video stops right after Romney says 47%!
It doesn't.

You haven't listened to it, have you? You haven't read the transcript, have you?

Hint: WND, Drudge, The Blaze, and Breitbart tend to lie to the gullible.

Romney Video Claim Debunked
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...video-debunked

Mostly aggregation from other news sources. Oh - and the original transcript and tape links for Sockpuppet to read and watch.

For example: What the entire "it's been selectively edited" claim is based upon:
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The Romney campaign was clearly implying the whole video was rubbish. But there's a slight problem. Politico's Dylan Byers, the source for the debunking charge, quickly noted that he had done no such thing. He wrote:

there is nothing in my report that "debunks" the video.
Just amazing, the rabid right doesn't even bother watch the video themselves before they grab a half-quote from here and a lie from there, and let loose the flying monkeys. Unbelievable. But why those sites have no respect as "journalism". And their blind adherents repeatedly end up looking like ignorant fools.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:28 PM
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It doesn't.

You haven't listened to it, have you? You haven't read the transcript, have you?

Hint: WND, Drudge, The Blaze, and Breitbart tend to lie to the gullible.

Romney Video Claim Debunked
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...video-debunked

Mostly aggregation from other news sources. Oh - and the original transcript and tape links for Sockpuppet to read and watch.

For example: What the entire "it's been selectively edited" claim is based upon:


Just amazing, the rabid right doesn't even bother watch the video themselves before they grab a half-quote from here and a lie from there, and let loose the flying monkeys. Unbelievable. But why those sites have no respect as "journalism". And their blind adherents repeatedly end up looking like ignorant fools.
Nice try Riot, Mother Jones has admitted some key parts are missing, only the really gullible believe their line about it being an accident.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:39 PM
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Nice try Riot, Mother Jones has admitted some key parts are missing, only the really gullible believe their line about it being an accident.
Um, no.

You're way behind the news, Sockpuppet

I'll post it here for you, so you can read about the Romney campaign walk back today of their bogus claim, based upon non-Mother Jones journalists pointing out the Romney campaign is wrong.

Is there anything the Romney campaign has said in the past two months that has not been walked back? Doesn't seem so.

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Romney's Video-Debunking Claim Is…Debunked
—By David Corn
Wed Sep. 19, 2012 4:00 PM PDT

This is getting ridiculous.

After Mother Jones posted video of Mitt Romney sharing remarks with millionaire donors that he would never express to voters—noting that nearly half of the American electorate are moochers and that Romney doesn't believe a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is feasible—Romney did not deny he said what he said.

As the cliché goes, he doubled down, saying his remarks were inelegant but a reflection of his views about the rapid growth of entitlement programs in the United States.

(Actually, this was a bait-and-switch operation. Romney was not talking policy when he disdainfully described half of the citizenry as parasites and victims.)

On Wednesday afternoon, he went further, with his campaign claiming that the video had been "debunked."

In lashing out at the Obama campaign, Romney's crew issued this email:

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Today, The Obama Campaign Leveled False Attacks Against Mitt Romney Based On A Debunked And Selectively Edited Video:

Today, Obama Campaign Spokesperson Ben LaBolt Attacked Mitt Romney Based On A Debunked Mother Jones Tape. OBAMA CAMPAIGN SPOKESMAN BEN LABOLT: "You heard on the tapes released this week that it's Mitt Romney who would walk away from the peace process." (MSNBC, 9/19/12)

But This Morning, Politico Reported That The Mother Jones Video Was Selectively Edited To Give A False Impression About Mitt Romney’s Views On The Middle East Peace Process.

"But the clip initially provided by Mother Jones does not include that part of his remarks, and therefore was not reported by the aforementioned news outlets.

Romney's complete remarks about the Mideast peace process were included in the complete video Mother Jones published Tuesday afternoon, less than 24 hours after it released clips from the fundraiser. But the clip posted to the Mother Jones website, which was cited by the national media, cuts out the excerpt in which Romney says that 'American strength, American resolve' will cause the Palestinians to 'some day reach the point where they want peace more than we're trying to force peace on them.'"

(Dylan Byers, "Technically, Romney Said Peace Was Possible," Politico, 9/19/12)
The Romney campaign was clearly implying the whole video was rubbish. But there's a slight problem.

Politico's Dylan Byers, the source for the Romney debunking charge, quickly noted that he had done no such thing. He wrote:

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there is nothing in my report that "debunks" the video.
In his article, posted earlier in the day, Byers had noted how some folks were complaining that we had edited a long clip of Romney talking about the Middle East selectively.

In that clip—watch it here—Romney trashed the two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian crisis, said the Palestinians (whom he lumped into one mindset) did not want peace and only sought the destruction of Israel, that he would not actively pursue the peace process and would instead seek to "kick the ball down the field," and that he had paid no real attention when a former secretary of state had told him that peace might be possible in the Middle East.

That is a total diss of the peace process—and would represent a radical break with US policy, which has supported a two-state solution since the Clinton years.

Yet Romney went on to say—and this clip did not include this—that if the United States showed "resolve….the Palestinians will some day reach the point where they want peace more than we're trying to force peace on them." Thus, peace might be theoretically possible at some point in the distance.

This was not a case of selective editing. The point was to show what was newsworthy: Romney breaking with current policy and stating views that he has not stated publicly. (In an interview this summer, he said he supported a two-state solution.)

Nevertheless, some Romney backers have cried foul and managed to turn this into a dispute they can use to raise questions about the secret Romney tape.

But don't take my word. Here's more from Byers:

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More mysterious still, is why the Romney campaign wants to debunk a video containing remarks that the candidate doubled-down on in a follow-up press conference.
Slate's Dave Weigel has weighed in as well:
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By calling the whole tape "debunked" and "selectively edited," the campaign's hewing closer to the Breitbart.com argument -- the real story is liberal media-Obama collusion. And the result is a sort of paradox, in which Romney stands by what he said in a video that you can't trust.
It was bizarre. After Byers and Weigel had debunked the Romney camp's debunking, Byers heard from a Romney aide who said that the campaign only takes issue with the clip regarding Romney's view on the Mideast, not the entire video.

In other words, the Romney campaign walked back the push-back.

It's not challenging the "47 percent" material or anything else; only the Mideast remarks.

But, as I've said a few thousand times on television these past few days, the wonderful thing about this story is that people can view for themselves.

Watch Romney talking about the Mideast, and it's clear he has contempt for the peace process as it has been conceived for years; does not believe it can work; and would chart a radically different course.

The few sentences not included in that clip—but which were included in the full transcript and complete tape we released—do not a debunking make.

This maneuver smacks of desperation from a campaign hurt by the undeniable words of its candidate.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:47 PM
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Riot do you ever have a thought of your own? All you do is cut and paste propaganda from liberal websites.

It is very simple , either something is missing from the tape or it isn't. Since Mother Jones already admitted something is missing, that is not up for debate. We are supposed to trust that a far-left website that will do anything to get their dear leader reelected is telling the truth that it was an accident and that nothing is important is missing?
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:53 PM
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Riot do you ever have a thought of your own?
Yeah, Sockie - I watched the tape myself.

You might try it. Then maybe you don't continue to embarrass yourself posting your crazy, disproven Breitbart nonsense here.

Now run along ... there a conspiracy theory about a Muslim Kenyan Failed Imaginary Cpmmunist Marxist President that needs to use your brain cells.
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Yeah, Sockie - I watched the tape myself.

You might try it. Then maybe you don't continue to embarrass yourself posting your crazy, disproven Breitbart nonsense here.

Now run along ... there a conspiracy theory about a Muslim Kenyan Failed Imaginary Cpmmunist Marxist President that needs to use your brain cells.
Ohhhh Riot watched the tape herself, how big of you. So then you must know that Romney was clearly only referring to worrying about their votes correct?

Again you fail to even address my point and resort to name calling which just shows that you are a tool of your liberal masters. Go along Riot, go to their websites so that they can tell you how to think and how to defend their indefensible failures. You are the perfect definition of a useful idiot.

By the way Carter's loser grandson admitted his motivation was revenge for Romney's truthful trashing of his incompetent grandfather. I really trust him when he says the lost footage was accident.

Come on Riot run to your masters so that you can cut and paste their words as you have already proven to everyone here that you can't put an intelligent sentence together. I pity the poor animals that are under your care.

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Ohhhh Riot watched the tape herself, how big of you. So then you must know that Romney was clearly only referring to worrying about their votes correct?

Again you fail to even address my point and resort to name calling which just shows that you are a tool of your liberal masters. Go along Riot, go to their websites so that they can tell you how to think and how to defend their indefensible failures. You are the perfect definition of a useful idiot.

By the way Carter's loser grandson admitted his motivation was revenge for Romney's truthful trashing of his incompetent grandfather. I really trust him when he says the lost footage was accident.

Come on Riot run to your masters so that you can cut and paste their words as you have already proven to everyone here that you can't put an intelligent sentence together. I pity the poor animals that are under your care.
You can be certain she won't be strapping any of those animals on the roof of her car.
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Ohhhh Riot watched the tape herself, how big of you. So then you must know that Romney was clearly only referring to worrying about their votes correct?

Again you fail to even address my point and resort to name calling which just shows that you are a tool of your liberal masters. Go along Riot, go to their websites so that they can tell you how to think and how to defend their indefensible failures. You are the perfect definition of a useful idiot.

By the way Carter's loser grandson admitted his motivation was revenge for Romney's truthful trashing of his incompetent grandfather. I really trust him when he says the lost footage was accident.

Come on Riot run to your masters so that you can cut and paste their words as you have already proven to everyone here that you can't put an intelligent sentence together. I pity the poor animals that are under your care.
You'd think after your whole act was exposed for what it was...you would have a little bit of humility. Guess not.
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