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Old 09-19-2012, 02:17 PM
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Since there are so many poor white republican 47% voters in all those southern states who no doubt do not have ID either I am sure the election will go just as it would without either group.
The Republicans who have worked with ALEC have recently said just what you did - that they've just realized that their strict laws are disenfranchising a major Republican voting block, the reliable elderly white southern GOP voter.

Voter suppression is WRONG. Don't you agree with that, Clip-Clop?

This is the United States - we should make it easier for all citizens to vote - not harder.

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It is sad they have not actively participated in any other aspect of society aside from voting that requires a person to be able to identify themselves. Shame on them for missing out on some really great things
That you dismiss lawyer-documented real people's lives as impossible made-up fantasy is sad, too.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:25 PM
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Lawyers would never lie or make something up to further their agenda, how silly of me.

Voter suppression is wrong (though I am for a test, once again this year the geniuses at the Stern show traveled NYC and we learned just how uninformed our voters are), confirming that a voter is who they say they are is OK with me. One case of fraud is too many.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:38 PM
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Lawyers would never lie or make something up to further their agenda, how silly of me.

Voter suppression is wrong (though I am for a test, once again this year the geniuses at the Stern show traveled NYC and we learned just how uninformed our voters are), confirming that a voter is who they say they are is OK with me. One case of fraud is too many.
Nobody is suddenly asking voters to prove who they are. That's not the deal with these laws.

What has happened with these laws is that all the things that you used to be able to use to prove who you are, all the forms of voter ID you have used legally in the past to allow you to vote -

- have been eliminated in some states - replaced now with more restrictive and fewer specific requirements.

These restrictive Voter ID laws are not asking for voter ID - they are taking a list of 20 items you have used a combination of, in the past, to prove who you are and enabled you to vote, and now saying only 2 or 3 of those things are valid.

Asking for voter ID is not what these laws are doing - these laws are eliminating legal voters ID's people have used in the past to legally vote.

You realize that "a test" has been overturned as an unfair discriminatory poll tax, right? It's illegal? I'll guess you don't understand why that would be illegal, because you are suggesting it
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:42 PM
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Nobody is suddenly asking voters to prove who they are. That's not the deal with these laws.

What has happened with these laws is that all the things that you used to be able to use to prove who you are, all the forms of voter ID you have used legally in the past to allow you to vote -

- have been eliminated in some states - replaced now with more restrictive and fewer specific requirements.

These restrictive Voter ID laws are not asking for voter ID - they are taking a list of 20 items you have used a combination of, in the past, to prove who you are and enabled you to vote, and now saying only 2 or 3 of those things are valid.

You realize that "a test" has been overturned as an unfair discriminatory poll tax, right? It's illegal? I'll guess you don't understand why that would be illegal, because you are suggesting it
Lots of things that used to be illegal are now legal. More of those will follow. If these laws were illegal they would be overturned. Our court system is infallible.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:49 PM
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Lots of things that used to be illegal are now legal. More of those will follow. If these laws were illegal they would be overturned. Our court system is infallible.
Nearly all of these laws have been overturned this summer. It's a good thing
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Nearly all of these laws have been overturned this summer. It's a good thing
Then the President will win again Chicago Style, good for you.
The rest of us will continue to have to scrape and fight for everything we can get while getting fleeced for some of the most ridiculous reasons.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:58 PM
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Then the President will win again Chicago Style, good for you.
Yeah, the GOP not allowing poor and minority American citizens to vote is the way you want it?

Seriously?

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The rest of us will continue to have to scrape and fight for everything we can get while getting fleeced for some of the most ridiculous reasons
And this random "I'm a victim" sentence is inserted because ... ?
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