Mitt Romney calls half of America freeloaders

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

interesting article even more interesting is to hear rationalizations from people as they vote against their own self interests. According to this it is not ok to pay no taxes because your income - legal deductions don't meet the minimum standards for taxation however it is pefectly fine to EVADE taxes by stashing your cash in the Caymans.

yep. all too often, people go for the overly simplistic. the easy thing is to say 'half don't pay taxes'...but that isn't close to the whole story. do some pay less or no fed tax? yes, they do. but many still pay ss, medicare (which technically goes to the same big pot with a huge hole in it) property taxes, etc. then there's what the article says, many of that 47% are on social security-they're retirees who paid into the system and now are reaping the fruits of their labor.

thing is, what mitt said wasn't meant for public consumption-it was only meant for the fat cats at that fundraiser. and i feel comments like that are far more telling than the practiced phrases you hear when they know the microphone is on.

what got me is when i read that some of the very rich also paid no federal income tax-now, that's mindboggling.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yep. all too often, people go for the overly simplistic. the easy thing is to say 'half don't pay taxes'...but that isn't close to the whole story. do some pay less or no fed tax? yes, they do. but many still pay ss, medicare (which technically goes to the same big pot with a huge hole in it) property taxes, etc. then there's what the article says, many of that 47% are on social security-they're retirees who paid into the system and now are reaping the fruits of their labor.

thing is, what mitt said wasn't meant for public consumption-it was only meant for the fat cats at that fundraiser. and i feel comments like that are far more telling than the practiced phrases you hear when they know the microphone is on.

what got me is when i read that some of the very rich also paid no federal income tax-now, that's mindboggling.

The funny thing is I am a hell of a lot closer to the demographic he is talking TO then who he is talking about. The thing is that unlike a lot of people I see that changing if the economy crashes. If 5% of the people have all the money then there are few left to buy my house, my stocks and products that fund my jobs. We all crash with it yet people continue to vote against their own interest. Is it mass delusion caused by reality TV? Watching some filthy rich fuk on TV doesn't mean you are days away from being there yourself.

[Kasept]

Charlie Pierce in his Esquire blog with a searing summation: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...9446e20a667d7d

[Kasept]

And on a related note from Mother Jones, piece about Romney policy and ad influencer Robert Rector from the disgusting Heritage Foundation..

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-robert-rector

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

And on a related note from Mother Jones, piece about Romney policy and ad influencer Robert Rector from the disgusting Heritage Foundation..

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-robert-rector

reading that reminded me of this, in which factcheck explains romney's claims about obama and welfare are incorrect (what a surprise )


http://factcheck.org/2012/08/does-ob...elfare-reform/

[joeydb]

Obama cannot run on his record, and so he must destroy Romney.

Obama added 5 trillion to the debt, bringing us to 16 trillion and counting.

That's 4 million bags of $4 million dollars each. $4 million squared.

Unemployment has gone up, peaking at just short of 10% even after cooking the books.

Forcing through a medical takeover that the majority of people do not want.

What, besides dishing out teleprompter scrolled condescension, has this guy really done?

Each individual has to make his/her own assessment, but I know that I'm not dumb enough to vote for him. He's shown us nothing good.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Obama cannot run on his record, and so he must destroy Romney.Obama added 5 trillion to the debt, bringing us to 16 trillion and counting.

That's 4 million bags of $4 million dollars each. $4 million squared.

Unemployment has gone up, peaking at just short of 10% even after cooking the books.

Forcing through a medical takeover that the majority of people do not want.

What, besides dishing out teleprompter scrolled condescension, has this guy really done?

Each individual has to make his/her own assessment, but I know that I'm not dumb enough to vote for him. He's shown us nothing good.

romney's doing a good enough job of destroying himself, obama just has to sit back and watch him implode.

and i'm pretty sure romney has only been attacking obama, rather than run on his 'record'.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Charlie Pierce in his Esquire blog with a searing summation: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...9446e20a667d7d

i enjoyed that one, thanks for posting.


the footage, recorded at an "intimate fundraiser" with "a small group of wealthy contributors," offers an extraordinary look at what the candidate is like when he's around people he perceives to be worthy of what he believes is the truth.


it was a moment of pure, unadulterated honesty.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Charlie Pierce in his Esquire blog with a searing summation: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...9446e20a667d7d

Whoa ... he nailed it. Yikes.