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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Cutler has the potential to be great. The problem with him is he has some serious personality disorders. And yes I believe he has many of them.

What they need is a few linemen that have the intelligence to realize their quarterback is special in a Rain Man type of way.

It really just has to be one strong personality on the line to condition the others. Make them accept that their quarterback is an as.shole...but an as.shole with a rocket for an arm.

Part of their job is protecting the guy. Yes liking him is important...but giving him another chance could pay dividends, and when you win you can have the antichrist as a teammate and love him like a brother.

Also you need a coach that can handle a special needs person like Cutler. Lovie isn't on the level.

agreed.


what's everyone's take on coughlin chewing out schiano? i thought it was silly. you play to win the game, right? play to the end, to the whistle.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

agreed.


what's everyone's take on coughlin chewing out schiano? i thought it was silly. you play to win the game, right? play to the end, to the whistle.

Obviously I'm biased. Didn't even know something happened until I got home (ran out after the Boley interception) but I thought it was bush league and very amateur. It's not like they were pinned inside the one. Tampa had no timeouts left, the game was over. I hope someone gives Freeman a needless shot in the upcoming weeks for no reason, because thats all it was to Manning and the Giants O-line. But honestly I'm not suprised. I have always thought that Schiano was a douche during his Rutgers days. This is just another reason for me to root against him and hope he falls flat on his face

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Obviously I'm biased. Didn't even know something happened until I got home (ran out after the Boley interception) but I thought it was bush league and very amateur. It's not like they were pinned inside the one. Tampa had no timeouts left, the game was over. I hope someone gives Freeman a needless shot in the upcoming weeks for no reason, because thats all it was to Manning and the Giants O-line. But honestly I'm not suprised. I have always thought that Schiano was a douche during his Rutgers days. This is just another reason for me to root against him and hope he falls flat on his face

Definitely bush league. The alarming thing I see going on game in/game out so far with the replacement refs, coaches and players alike are pushing things into the gray areas as far as late hits, holds, illegal contact, and extra-curricular skirmishes. I would go so far as to say some of the games look like they were about to get away from the control of the refs.

[dagolfer33]

....like this game is about to get out of control.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Obviously I'm biased. Didn't even know something happened until I got home (ran out after the Boley interception) but I thought it was bush league and very amateur. It's not like they were pinned inside the one. Tampa had no timeouts left, the game was over. I hope someone gives Freeman a needless shot in the upcoming weeks for no reason, because thats all it was to Manning and the Giants O-line. But honestly I'm not suprised. I have always thought that Schiano was a douche during his Rutgers days. This is just another reason for me to root against him and hope he falls flat on his face

Not over in a 1 score game until the gun sounds. Two words. Joe Pisarcik.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by jms62

Not over in a 1 score game until the gun sounds. Two words. Joe Pisarcik.

Does not mean it is not bush league. It won't happen again because the other teams will be ready for it now that they know it will happen. They will probably have someone ready to spear a prone lineman from the Bucs. This is all good for football especially with these current @ss clown refs they are using.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

Not over in a 1 score game until the gun sounds. Two words. Joe Pisarcik.

exactly. it would have been bush league if the giants had been winning by 10 or more points.

Game does not end until there is no time left on the clock.

[Antitrust32]

I personally dont mind that the cornerbacks are getting to play old school football because the replacement refs suck so bad.

I prefer old school football.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

exactly. it would have been bush league if the giants had been winning by 10 or more points.

Game does not end until there is no time left on the clock.

The Bucs actually had a time out left, so why didn't Schiano call it if he's so gung ho on playing it to the end? There was still 3 seconds on the clock when Eli went to the ground.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The Bucs actually had a time out left, so why didn't Schiano call it if he's so gung ho on playing it to the end? There was still 3 seconds on the clock when Eli went to the ground.

you should never leave a time out in the bag unless you are winning and want the clock to run out.

Miracle in the Meadowlands part I

you never know what can happen, quitting is stupid.

[Antitrust32]

much more interesting coaching decision from this weekend.


Ravens are up 20-17 with about 5:30 left to play and are driving. In field goal range.

3rd and long comes up... Ravens throw a short pass and are stopped a few yards short of the first down... around the 20 yard line. So it would be 4th and 2 or 3, around a 37 yard FG try.

Turns out Ravens were called for holding on 3rd down, taking the ball 10 yards back (still in FG range, btw... still would have been a 47 yard FG and the kicker had already made 2 over 50 yards in the game).

Andy Reid accepted the penality. I was furious, why give the other team a chance to get a first down, run more time down, and possible score a TD to make it a two score game???? especially when you already have them held to no more than a FG, on 4th down.... and the penalty did NOT take them out of FG range. I said right there.. if the Ravens get a first down and end up scoring a TD, Reid needs to be fired on the spot.

So what happens on 3rd and 17 or so? We get called for a roughing the passer penalty, and First Down Ravens, at the 20.

Two plays later... Flacco throws a TD pass that was controversally called Offensive PI.. thankfully.. most refs dont make that call. Eagles... specifically Reid, got very lucky and were bailed out by the refs.

Things worked out, but Flacco should have NEVER been given that opportunity by Reid to throw that TD pass.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you should never leave a time out in the bag unless you are winning and want the clock to run out.

Miracle in the Meadowlands part I

you never know what can happen, quitting is stupid.

I could buy it if the were backed up inside the 5.
But there is nothing that you can say to make me think it was nothing more than a bush league cheap shot maneuver. The fact that he didn't call his other TO, re-enforces that to me.

Joe Pisarcik is the one exception to the rule (and besides they were running a play and not kneeling on the ball) That's probably the only time in NFL history something like that has and will happen. Plus they didn't line up in the formation below.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Obviously I'm biased. Didn't even know something happened until I got home (ran out after the Boley interception) but I thought it was bush league and very amateur. It's not like they were pinned inside the one. Tampa had no timeouts left, the game was over. I hope someone gives Freeman a needless shot in the upcoming weeks for no reason, because thats all it was to Manning and the Giants O-line. But honestly I'm not suprised. I have always thought that Schiano was a douche during his Rutgers days. This is just another reason for me to root against him and hope he falls flat on his face

Of course it was bush league.

I get it, he's trying to change the mentality in Tampa. But with plays like that? As you alluded to, now his QB is going to get his....and you he eventually will, the Giants aren't going to forget it.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Of course it was bush league.

I get it, he's trying to change the mentality in Tampa. But with plays like that? As you alluded to, now his QB is going to get his....and you he eventually will, the Giants aren't going to forget it.

Cat's out of the bag now, because everyone else in the NFL will be ready for this. In the long run all he did was jeopardize his own guys.