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Old 09-06-2012, 10:23 AM
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Seperation of Church and State... Horrible Idea
In God We Trust.

Blasphemous

Can we capture some green energy off our forefathers rolling in their graves?
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from npr, on party platforms and what they're worth these days:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...ms?ft=1&f=1001
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In God We Trust.

Blasphemous

Can we capture some green energy off our forefathers rolling in their graves?
Do I need to be on a shrum or acid trip to have an inkling what you are trying to say?
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:02 AM
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Do I need to be on a shrum or acid trip to have an inkling what you are trying to say?
Google 'How an alternator works to charge a battery' and you may be able to say no to the drugs.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:03 PM
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Oh, my ... "who" doesn't know what democracy means?

Let's ignore the Republican Party breaking their own delegate rules repeatedly to deny Ron Paul delegates their rightful voice based upon primary results.

The Democrats removed, then at the request of that "Muslim Communist Kenyan" President Obama, reinserted the words "god-given" in their party platform (this was a line in the 2008 platform)

So, thank President Obama for "standing up for God", Dell and Joey. You're welcome.

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“We need a government that… gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”
What if, instead, the Democrats had inserted a party plank avowing a fear and a fight against Catholic canon? What about if that Democratic party plank was against Judiasm? That would be pretty outrageous, right?

I mean, this is a country founded upon religious freedom, right?

So let's look at the Republican party and their plank, Dell and Joey. The Republicans have added a plank in this 2012 party platform against the non-existent threat of "Sharia Law" in this country.

Yes, that's right - the Republican Party of the United States has a party plank insulting the religious freedom of millions of Muslim Americans under the false flag of "sharia law! be afraid"

You see, this is how the loss of religious freedom starts: a bunch of haters - read the GOP - codifying their hate in politics, then government.

I'll let Congressman Keith Ellison, a Muslim, describe the Republican Party as he did this morning in The Hill:

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Rep. Ellison: GOP 'basically a bigoted party'
By Justin Sink - 09/06/12 08:40 AM ET

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) blasted Republicans for including a plank in their convention platform targeting Shariah law in an interview with Mother Jones Wednesday, blasting the language as "an expression of bigotry."

"There has never been any legislation offered to establish Shariah law — not at the federal level, not at the state level. There's not been a municipal ordinance opposing this, there's not been anything," said Ellison, the nation's first Muslim member of Congress.

The Republican platform included language demanding "no use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws."

"Nor should foreign sources of law be used in State courts; adjudication of criminal or civil matters," the platform continues in a section championed by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who has been outspoken in his concern that the moral code of Islam could be playing a greater role in the American justice system.

Ellison blasted Republicans as "the party of hate" for having "demonstrated hatred towards Muslims" in adopting the language.

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For Ellison, the anti-Shariah plank was part of a broader narrative of exclusion. "Why do they want to become the party of hate? They're hating on immigrants who are from Latin America. They're demonstrating hatred toward Muslims. They're demonstrating hostility toward women. They act like they don't like gay people. Who is their party supposed to be made up of in 20 years?"

"I'm sad that they have decided to go into this dark ugly place where they see the whole world as their enemy," Ellison continued. "And this is the thing: I don't mind debating taxes and spending; we probably should. But they're the party that is basically a bigoted party and they have now officially declared themselves against a whole segment of the American population, because if we said we were going to put a plank opposing Jewish law, or Catholic canon, it would be an outrage. This is also an outrage. But you know, it'll pass."

Platform language has taken an increasingly prominent role at the conventions, with both political parties accusing the other side of adopting inappropriate language.

Democrats amended their party platform Wednesday afternoon to reinsert language supporting Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, with multiple reports saying the president personally intervened to have the language reinstated after criticism from Republicans. But the floor vote was contentious, with Convention Chairman and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa needing three tries at a voice-vote before declaring in favor of the changes.

Republicans also ripped Democrats from excluding mention of God from their political platform; that language was also reinserted during the floor vote.

Link to Mother Jones Ellison article http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...chele-bachmann
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:29 PM
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why the fucl< should any political platform talk about god? which god? your god or mine?

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:31 PM
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why the fucl< should any political platform talk about god? which god? your god or mine?
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Guess if you don't believe in the "right" "God" - or are an atheist, or an agnostic, or a secular Humanist, you're not a real 'Murican? Bah.
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Can we capture some green energy off our forefathers rolling in their graves?
you mean the ones who believed in freedom of religion?

"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not care to support it, so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."

-Ben Franklin

He'd be rolling in his grave alright... just not for the same reason you think, Dell.
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