4.5 Millon New Jobs??!!! Really?! Reality Check

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I have not been a registered republican for 5 or more years.

The people who make the most noise in the party suck big time. The elected officials suck.

I have a ton of friends... and read people on this board, who are Republicans, and they do not suck. They are pretty realistic, conservative, fair, believe in equality. (not talking about dellinger here)

Just like Christianity... most Christians do not suck, they are pretty realistic, fair, etc. The ones with the most voice, the ones on TV, the ones like Sarah Palin... well they suck donkey balls.

The crazy's out there make the most noise.

I also believe both parties are equal on the "hater" scale.

The hate towards Bush was equally as nasty as the hate towards Obama. If you disagree, well then I dont believe you.

Well, the "hate" directed at Bush doesn't in the least match what has been thrown at Obama. You can "not believe me", but that's what I've seen. The death threats, the vitriol, the lies far exceed what Bush received - and he got a shoe thrown at him overseas. Bushes skin was white, and yes, indeed, some (not all) of the Obama-hate is definitely race related. Nobody accused any previous president of not even being a citizen, but someone from Africa.

[dylbert]

Barack Obama, Jimmy Carter without high interest rates. What a country!

[Thepaindispenser]

20 million jobs have been lost during the Obama administration and I have yet to see one idea from Obama that would create sustaining private sector jobs. No wonder why more and more people keep dropping out of the labor pool.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

20 million jobs have been lost during the Obama administration and I have yet to see one idea from Obama that would create sustaining private sector jobs. No wonder why more and more people keep dropping out of the labor pool.

Please provide links to statistics that back up this absolutely absurd claim.

http://mollysmiddleamerica.blogspot....d-or-lost.html

[joeydb]

I noticed the word "net" is missing from the "new jobs" statistic...

That's right up there with "you would have gone bald sooner had you not used our super-duper hair tonic."

That kind of claim is now outlawed by the FDA by the way.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I noticed the word "net" is missing from the "new jobs" statistic...

That's right up there with "you would have gone bald sooner had you not used our super-duper hair tonic."

That kind of claim is now outlawed by the FDA by the way.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...ord/?mobile=nc

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...ord/?mobile=nc

He isn't running against Bush's record this year, that proved easy. Now he needs to run on his own.
Think Progress? I am surprised as you have always seemed the type to cull stats from legit sources.

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/f...-election.html

However, CNN fact-checked that claim and found it to be "not the whole picture." Instead, CNN found that there has been a net increase of just 300,000 nonfarm payroll jobs since Obama took office. And if you count government jobs, there are actually 400,000 fewer people working today than in January 2009.

When Democrats use the 4.5 million jobs number, they're referring to jobs created after the economy bottomed out in January 2010, one year after Obama took office. That time frame excludes the worst job losses, which took place in 2009, and which many Democrats argue were the result of Bush policies.

CNN concludes: "The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession."


As of July, Obama is averaging +0.84 percent annual job growth in his term. That places him ahead of Bush, who saw +0.51 percent growth in his first term and -0.84 percent in his second term. Obama is also tracking better than George H.W. Bush, who presided over +0.69 percent growth during his one term in the White House.

However, Obama's job growth percentages trail far behind those of some other recent presidents, including Bill Clinton (+2.60 percent and +1.60 percent), Ronald Reagan (+1.75 percent and +2.53 percent) and even Jimmy Carter (+2.30 percent)...




well, obama isn't lying when he says his job growth is better than bush. but that's not exactly saying much, is it?