Convention Highlights

[Riot]

The Republican Party has found itself on the outskirts now, on the verge of becoming a permanent minority party, because the RNC convention revealed it to be empty of actual policy, simply falling back on rancor, attack, insult, scare tactics and wanting to undo all the gains of the past 150 years. Useless.

Here Ezra Klein, a few days ago, explains how government lay-offs has killed job growth, and the good job growth we've had in the private sector past 4 years.

The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein breaks down what the US economy might look like if government employment was at the same level as in previous recessions under Reagan and Bush 41. "If we hadn't lost public sector jobs, unemployment would be at 7.8 percent," he says.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/48822188#48822188

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Republican Party has found itself on the outskirts now, on the verge of becoming a permanent minority party, because the RNC convention revealed it to be empty of actual policy, simply falling back on rancor, attack, insult, scare tactics and wanting to undo all the gains of the past 150 years. Useless.

Here Ezra Klein, a few days ago, explains how government lay-offs has killed job growth, and the good job growth we've had in the private sector past 4 years.

You are completely delusional. Time to take your meds, crazy lady.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

You are completely delusional. Time to take your meds, crazy lady.

When you don't any facts, resorting to calling names works well for you. You demean yourself to that level frequently and readily. Sad, really.

You are the perfect representation of the current remnants of the Republican Party. Reading your posts is like watching the RNC undercard speakers. Hands over ears, yelling "get the Muslim!" and "austerity" and "God". Scare, fear, we are not really in control. The three platitudes of Republicanism today. That's all that's left of that party.

Oh, and here's a funny thing: the massive layoffs of public workers by Republican governors over the past 3 years was pointed out, and the GOP tried to refute it this past spring. In other words, the GOP were arguing that their layoffs of public sector workers did not hurt unemployment. Oh, those lying kids!

So, sorry - the GOP says the public sector is really fine. Well, at least they did last June!

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...rker-la/166596

Conservative Media Dismiss Government Worker Layoffs To Argue Public Sector Is Fine

Conservative media are downplaying the severity of public sector job cuts by trumpeting data showing that the unemployment rate among government workers in May was 4.2 percent. But that statistic doesn't change the fact that public sector job cuts in this recovery have been more severe compared with previous recoveries and experts contend these cuts not only threaten the recovering economy but also impact private sector job growth.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

When you don't any facts, resorting to calling names works well for you. You demean yourself to that level frequently and readily. Sad, really.

You are the perfect representation of the current remnants of the Republican Party. Reading your posts is like watching the RNC undercard speakers. Hands over ears, yelling "get the Muslim!" and "austerity" and "God". Scare, fear, we are not really in control. The three platitudes of Republicanism today. That's all that's left of that party.

Oh, and here's a funny thing: the massive layoffs of public workers by Republican governors over the past 3 years was pointed out, and the GOP tried to refute it this past spring. In other words, the GOP were arguing that their layoffs of public sector workers did not hurt unemployment. Oh, those lying kids!

So, sorry - the GOP says the public sector is really fine. Well, at least they did last June!

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...rker-la/166596

Conservative Media Dismiss Government Worker Layoffs To Argue Public Sector Is Fine

Conservative media are downplaying the severity of public sector job cuts by trumpeting data showing that the unemployment rate among government workers in May was 4.2 percent. But that statistic doesn't change the fact that public sector job cuts in this recovery have been more severe compared with previous recoveries and experts contend these cuts not only threaten the recovering economy but also impact private sector job growth.

Do you ever get tired of me making a fool of you? The question is rhetorical so don't bother answering it.

No surprise with your typical response trying to paint anyone who disagrees with you as a raciest you disgusting pig. When have I ever said anything about Muslim's and God?

I don't fall for your manipulation of facts and B.S. charts that you take from lying liberal websites and increasingly neither is the public. Several posters have pointed out your lies.

Here are facts. There are less people working in the U.S. today than when Obama took office, plain and simple. Obama's Presidency has been a monumental failure and we only have a few months left of it. I don't care how much you try to manipulate facts, the more you do, the more of a fool you make of yourself. You are a joke and everything wrong with America.

Now I have to go back to work to pay for your diety's benefits to those who don't deserve the hard work I do for it. The gig is up.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you ever get tired of me making a fool of you? The question is rhetorical so don't bother answering it.

Ah. Yes. I see. You're talking to the imaginary Riot with the imaginary opinions sitting in the empty chair.



That's right ... truth is lies, and facts are manipulation. Good luck with that! You sound quite a bit unbalanced.

Enjoy your next four Obama years of increasing economic prosperity, good health care, easier opportunity for education, and decreased energy costs.

I was worried about where this country was going, but after the first day of the Dem convention, with the implosion of the Republican Party, I have hope that the adults will retake that party control in four years, and the Dems will continue being aggressively proud of what they have accomplished.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Riot

Get a grip on reality.

I laughed.

Random stuff... Big Run I won't comment on Ms. Flowers except to say doesn't she kinda look like Carol Channing these days?

Re Riot - the conventions... nice the way you talk down to us like we all can't possibly be watching.

Very Obamaesque if you ask me.

Re watching CSPAN?

How is that possible when you are always here??

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you ever get tired of me making a fool of you? The question is rhetorical so don't bother answering it.

No surprise with your typical response trying to paint anyone who disagrees with you as a raciest you disgusting pig. When have I ever said anything about Muslim's and God?

I don't fall for your manipulation of facts and B.S. charts that you take from lying liberal websites and increasingly neither is the public. Several posters have pointed out your lies.

Here are facts. There are less people working in the U.S. today than when Obama took office, plain and simple. Obama's Presidency has been a monumental failure and we only have a few months left of it. I don't care how much you try to manipulate facts, the more you do, the more of a fool you make of yourself. You are a joke and everything wrong with America.

Now I have to go back to work to pay for your diety's benefits to those who don't deserve the hard work I do for it. The gig is up.

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Republican Party has found itself on the outskirts now, on the verge of becoming a permanent minority party, because the RNC convention revealed it to be empty of actual policy, simply falling back on rancor, attack, insult, scare tactics and wanting to undo all the gains of the past 150 years. Useless.

Here Ezra Klein, a few days ago, explains how government lay-offs has killed job growth, and the good job growth we've had in the private sector past 4 years.

Ezra Klein....LOL

[Riot]

Originally Posted by trifecta124

Ezra Klein....LOL

Ezra Klein has excellent peer-reviewed credentials as a public economic journalist, and you know it. Your attempt to disparage the source is a gigantic fail. Is he a lefty? Yup. Sure is. Does that have anything to do with accuracy in analyzing facts and figures? Nope.

That you do not talk about the figures given, or refute them, reveals all. LOL. Trifecta. LOL

Hate, fear, God. It's the Republican Party 2012.

Don't build a new house. Throw eggs at the old house, and then insult the paint job as being destroyed. That's all you guys are doing this election cycle. You are the John Birch Society writ large. No solutions, no reality, just hate, fear and God. You are such a minority within this society, you hardly matter any more.

[Antitrust32]

If Paul Ryan was not religious... or was religious and kept it to himself and really believed in seperation of church and state, I may really like the guy. He's an actual, true conservative.

Mitt Romney? eh, dont care for him.

Obama is just not made for this job.

Biden? Probably the worst of the four.

I wish a non religious Paul Ryan was running for President!


edit - what i really wish are people like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson had a real shot at winning.

[Danzig]

[quote=Antitrust32;888647]If Paul Ryan was not religious... or was religious and kept it to himself and really believed in seperation of church and state, I may really like the guy. He's an actual, true conservative.

Mitt Romney? eh, dont care for him.

Obama is just not made for this job.

Biden? Probably the worst of the four.

I wish a non religious Paul Ryan was running for President!


edit - what i really wish are people like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson had a real shot at winning.[/QUOTE]

[pointman]

Wow, Riot is really spiraling out of control!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by pointman

Wow, Riot is really spiraling out of control!

[Danzig]

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...lan/?mobile=nc


just saw the above, and figured this was as good a place as any to put it. another example of fantasy vs reality.


NORQUIST: You do two things. You reduce spending, and you have stronger economic growth. This is one of the weakest recoveries we’ve had –

ZAKARIA: You can as a practical matter, this is a wish, not a plan. I would like stronger economic growth, too….This is all rhetoric, Grover. You’ve got a plan as a practical matter. As I said, Clinton raised taxes, he got growth. Bush had the biggest tax cuts in a generation, and he got the weakest growth in 30 years. All I’m saying is as a matter of practical planning for the fiscal future of the United States your answer can’t be, well we’ll have stronger growth. Yeah, if we grow at 6%, we don’t need to do anything. Everything is solvent, right? But I can’t wish for that. We’ve got to plan realistically.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...lan/?mobile=nc


just saw the above, and figured this was as good a place as any to put it. another example of fantasy vs reality.


NORQUIST: You do two things. You reduce spending, and you have stronger economic growth. This is one of the weakest recoveries we’ve had –

ZAKARIA: You can as a practical matter, this is a wish, not a plan. I would like stronger economic growth, too….This is all rhetoric, Grover. You’ve got a plan as a practical matter. As I said, Clinton raised taxes, he got growth. Bush had the biggest tax cuts in a generation, and he got the weakest growth in 30 years. All I’m saying is as a matter of practical planning for the fiscal future of the United States your answer can’t be, well we’ll have stronger growth. Yeah, if we grow at 6%, we don’t need to do anything. Everything is solvent, right? But I can’t wish for that. We’ve got to plan realistically.

Just cut taxes and everything will be taken care of. Executives at Corporations will use it to hire US citizens and not continue to stuff their already bloated wallets. Real Estate taxes will remain the same unlike when Bush cut taxes and they went up EVERY ****ING YEAR. If that doesn't work then certainly WWIII will do the trick, it worked in the 40's right?

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Riot

Ezra Klein has excellent peer-reviewed credentials as a public economic journalist, and you know it. Your attempt to disparage the source is a gigantic fail. Is he a lefty? Yup. Sure is. Does that have anything to do with accuracy in analyzing facts and figures? Nope.

That you do not talk about the figures given, or refute them, reveals all. LOL. Trifecta. LOL

Hate, fear, God. It's the Republican Party 2012.

Don't build a new house. Throw eggs at the old house, and then insult the paint job as being destroyed. That's all you guys are doing this election cycle. You are the John Birch Society writ large. No solutions, no reality, just hate, fear and God. You are such a minority within this society, you hardly matter any more.

The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by trifecta124

The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.

I watch the convention on CSpan, thanks - no commentary at all. You might try it.

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Riot

I watch the convention on CSpan, thanks - no commentary at all. You might try it.

It is amusing how you didn't respond to the facts that I posted here....You simply told me that I should watch on CSPAN.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by trifecta124

It is amusing how you didn't respond to the facts that I posted here....You simply told me that I should watch on CSPAN.

Please - go ahead and post some factual support for your very broad, simplist, and generalized "facts". Which are really just loose opinions.

I'll be happy to reply when you've done that

Again, these threads are the perfect example of what type of person populates the right wing nowadays.

Hate, anger, fear, God. It's all you've got.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trifecta124

The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

President Bill Clinton’s signing statement for the GLBA summarized the established argument for repealing Glass-Steagall Section’s 20 and 32 in stating that this change, and the GLBA’s amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act, would “enhance the stability of our financial services system” by permitting financial firms to “diversify their product offerings and thus their sources of revenue” and make financial firms “better equipped to compete in global financial markets."

yeah, that....uh...went well.


altho bush deserves a share of criticism (two wars for starters) he certainly didn't sign the glass-steagall changes. that bubble that burst while he was in office was already growing thanks to the above, brought to you by-BOTH PARTIES,and signed into law by the hero of the democratic party, bill clinton.
so, altho it's fashionable to beat the 'blame bush' drums, that's far from the entire story. i know, i know...shocking. there's nothing politicians enjoy more than garnering praise when things are good, and pointing fingers at everyone else when it's bad.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

President Bill Clinton’s signing statement for the GLBA summarized the established argument for repealing Glass-Steagall Section’s 20 and 32 in stating that this change, and the GLBA’s amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act, would “enhance the stability of our financial services system” by permitting financial firms to “diversify their product offerings and thus their sources of revenue” and make financial firms “better equipped to compete in global financial markets."

yeah, that....uh...went well.


altho bush deserves a share of criticism (two wars for starters) he certainly didn't sign the glass-steagall changes. that bubble that burst while he was in office was already growing thanks to the above, brought to you by-BOTH PARTIES,and signed into law by the hero of the democratic party, bill clinton.
so, altho it's fashionable to beat the 'blame bush' drums, that's far from the entire story. i know, i know...shocking. there's nothing politicians enjoy more than garnering praise when things are good, and pointing fingers at everyone else when it's bad.

An inconvenient truth.