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Old 08-21-2012, 03:35 PM
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Still looking for the restriction on women's rights, not what the federal government will pay for. Please site an example that says what you are accusing.
Read page 50. It restricts welfare recipients right to abortions.

Seriously - are you taking the stand that the GOP has not introduced multiple bills into the Congress, in the past two years, restricting womens rights and increasing restrictions on abortion?

Yes or no? Is that your position, or not? Because if you are taking that position, it is simply wrong. Don't ask for "show me the bills" - I have. This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's been documented all over the news the past 2 years. Just read!

First month of new GOP House:

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA
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Read page 50. It restricts welfare recipients right to abortions.

Seriously - are you taking the stand that the GOP has not introduced multiple bills into the Congress, in the past two years, restricting womens rights and increasing restrictions on abortion?

Yes or no? Is that your position, or not?
POST A QUOTE FROM THE BILL THAT SAYS WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING. You have read the bill, pull page 50 and put it here and please explain which portion is restricting women's rights.

My position is that you are unable to prove any of what you allege with quoted documentation.
Are there republicans that are against abortion, of course there are, there are democrats too.
Is that a settled topic since 1973 in the minds of most people, yes.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:46 PM
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POST A QUOTE FROM THE BILL THAT SAYS WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING. You have read the bill, pull page 50 and put it here and please explain which portion is restricting women's rights.

My position is that you are unable to prove any of what you allege with quoted documentation.
Are there republicans that are against abortion, of course there are, there are democrats too.
Is that a settled topic since 1973 in the minds of most people, yes.
I said this current congress has introduced over 40 bills to curtail abortion and womens rights.

You demand to see the bills.

I post 38 of them.

Again: if you are taking the position that the Republicans have not introduced multiple bills attempting to curtail abortion and women's rights, that's as easily proven wrong as reading todays news.

That's just a crazy, wrong position, as wrong as saying the sky is not blue. It's common knowlege. The GOP even brags about it. And you say it doesn't exist?

Seriously - is that what you are saying? Because that's so crazy, I'm trying to see if I am misunderstanding you.

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First month of new GOP House, 2010

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA
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I said this current congress has introduced over 40 bills to curtail abortion and womens rights.

You demand to see the bills.

I post 38 of them.

Again: if you are taking the position that the Republicans have not introduced multiple bills attempting to curtail abortion and women's rights, that's as easily proven wrong as reading todays news.

That's just a crazy, wrong position, as wrong as saying the sky is not blue. It's common knowlege. The GOP even brags about it. And you say it doesn't exist?

Seriously - is that what you are saying? Because that's so crazy, I'm trying to see if I am misunderstanding you.

Again:

First month of new GOP House, 2010

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA
lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:55 PM
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lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.
Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:58 PM
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Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?
Still saying pull one quote from one bill that actually says what you are alleging other than a fiscal notation.

But this is pointless any way, you are blind and foolish and refuse to defend your positions and I will now join the sane people of the site that ignore your time wasting answer questions with questions philosophy that you equate with debate.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:01 PM
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Still saying pull one quote from one bill that actually says what you are alleging other than a fiscal notation.

But this is pointless any way, you are blind and foolish and refuse to defend your positions and I will now join the sane people of the site that ignore your time wasting answer questions with questions philosophy that you equate with debate.
fare well.
I already quoted one bill at the start of your weirdness: House Bill 3. The very first bill the GOP introduced in this congress.

I said that indeed the GOP has introduced bill after bill in this Congress, that restricts womens rights.

You are denying that exists? Yes or no? I'm trying to be clear on what you are "demanding" as "proof" of "what".

I posted 38 bills that do just that. I posted a news article that lists the first 4 anti-abortion bills this House GOP introduced their first month in office in 2010.

You say that's not proof the GOP has introduced multiple bills in the House attempting to restrict abortion and women's rights? Good lord, the GOP is proud they have introduced bills to restrict abortion! It's their party platform!

Your contention that GOP restricting women's rights is all imaginary is beyond ridiculous on it's face.
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Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?
I think you don't acknowledge that you stepped in it. Again.

point out precisely in any of these bills where the proposed laws states what you are saying it states.

Nowhere.

You are making the leap to say that a proposed bill which limits the government paying for abortions = Congress attempting to restrict abortions and of course by extension, women's rights.

And you got caught.


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Old 08-21-2012, 04:11 PM
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I think you don't acknowledge that you stepped in it. Again.

point out precisely in any of these bills where the proposed laws states what you are saying it states.
I started with House Bill 3. There were four bills introduced the first month of congress alone restricting abortion rights. There have been multiples since.

You are joining Clip Clop in denying they exist? Really? REALLY?

In the face of the actual bills being available, Republicans talking about them, and the news covering them?

Really? And you dare to call me a fool? Bwwwaahaaaaaaaaaaa!

God save this country from the profoundly ignorant.
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lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.
Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:59 PM
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Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.
Stop it.

Stop being ridiculous and childish and whiny, and trying to derail a talk about if women's rights are being restricted with you interspersing personal attack.

Just grow up and stop it.
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Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.
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Priebus: GOP platform 'not the platform of Mitt Romney'


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The official platform language poised for approval at next week's Republican National Convention doesn't fully represent the party's presumptive presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said Tuesday.

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"I think as far as the details of some of these things, like an exception for rape or life of the mother, these are not uncommon differences that candidates have and don't share some of the detail on some of those exceptions," Priebus said on MSNBC. "This is the platform of the Republican Party; it's not the platform of Mitt Romney."


http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...tt-romney?lite
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