Five Hidden Obamacare Taxes that Crush the Middle Class

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Riot

These are not "hidden", as they were all outlined in detail and discussed publicly when the Affordable Care Act was passed two years ago.

They were all outlined in detail??? Even Nancy Pelosi said they needed to pass it to find out what was in it. Do you realize how much of it is left up to the discretion of Kathleen Sebelius and the rest of her dictatorship board? You really make no sense.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

They were all outlined in detail??? Even Nancy Pelosi said they needed to pass it to find out what was in it.

I'm so tired of hearing that last sentence misused and taken out of context as to imply ignorance of the bill contents.

Yes - before the ACA was finalized, there were four different versions floating around between the House and Senate, between Dems and GOP.

Pelosi was asked in a press conference what would be in the final version, and yes, Nancy Pelosi said they would need to pass a finalized bill before we knew for sure. Meaning, she didn't know on that date which version would be the one that would end up being passed.

But of course, the content of all the different bills, including the funding mechanisms, were indeed in those written bills, there to read.

And as the ACA was passed, yes, the funding was discussed publicly in great detail at the time.

There's nothing "hidden". And the bill has been law for 2 years. Seems most would have read it by now. Especially as most of it - including the funding - has already been in existence or will be shortly.

BTW, do you realize the ACA relation to Romney's current lie about the $716 billion in Medicare?

Do you realize how much of it is left up to the discretion of Kathleen Sebelius and the rest of her dictatorship board? You really make no sense.

Do tell us which of the financing portion of the ACA is left up to the random discretion of the Health and Human Services Director, be they appointed by a Republican or a Democrat?

[Thepaindispenser]

Exactly Riot, the more we find out about Obamacare the more we know how much Obama lied about it. Reducing the deficit and covering more people, what a filthy liar. My premiums have already shot up and it hasn't even kicked in yet. Not only that, the quality of my care, or at least what I can afford, has already diminished. Why do you think Obama made sure it wouldnt kick in until after the 2012 election? Why has he granted waivers to his biggest donors? If the law was so great, wouldn't he want it up and running before the election? If it is so great why all the waivers for his big donor pals. I reiterate, you make no sense.

Please point out where I said Sebelius has discretion over financing because I can't seem to find it in my post.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Exactly Riot, the more we find out about Obamacare the more we know how much Obama lied about it. Reducing the deficit and covering more people, what a filthy liar. My premiums have already shot up and it hasn't even kicked in yet. Not only that, the quality of my care, or at least what I can afford, has already diminished. Why do you think Obama made sure it wouldnt kick in until after the 2012 election? Why has he granted waivers to his biggest donors? If the law was so great, wouldn't he want it up and running before the election? If it is so great why all the waivers for his big donor pals. I reiterate, you make no sense.

Reading you is like a stream-of-conciousness mainline from Freepers Fearville of Lies.

It's so sad you believe that.

Please point out where I said Sebelius has discretion over financing because I can't seem to find it in my post.

It was where you said,

"Do you realize how much of it is left up to the discretion of Kathleen Sebelius and the rest of her dictatorship board? You really make no sense."

[Thepaindispenser]

Again, where does it say discretion over financing?

Nice try with Nancy Pelosi, she is an elitist piece of garbage, who thinks that we should trust her liberal politician pals and her to make laws where there is no transpency during the process and that don't apply to them. If Obamacare is so great, why doesn't apply to members of Congress and Obama? Why did Obama lie so much about being transparent during the process?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Again, where does it say discretion over financing?

You put that sentence directly into a reply about the financing of the ACA. Duh.

Nice try with Nancy Pelosi, she is an elitist piece of garbage, who thinks that we should trust her liberal politician pals and her to make laws where there is no transpency during the process and that don't apply to them.

You are simply incapable of talking politics. You can only spew your hate venom. Done with you. Blech.

[Thepaindispenser]

You just can't take it that you can no longer get away with your bullying and lies on this board.

Again, I still don't see where I said Sebelius has control over financing.