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Old 08-17-2012, 06:52 AM
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How about Alan Garcia with Photon in Thursday's 8th? Breaks in great position and takes back after sensing the sizzling :24 opening quarter..
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:58 AM
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How about Alan Garcia with Photon in Thursday's 8th? Breaks in great position and takes back after sensing the sizzling :24 opening quarter..
That's my gripe with these jocks today - No apparent sense of pace -

Many times a race is stolen on the front-end - This did not seem to happen as much in the past
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:09 AM
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It is a tad ironic that this topic came up about a ride in Race 11 after the rides he put forth in the 9th and 10th.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:39 AM
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Jockey complaints are usually the sign of a tough meet and discouraged horseplayers. Saratoga has been tough this year. The ride is an easy thing to blame.

That said, I feel in general the rides I've been seeing this summer at Saratoga and beyond have been far from some of the greatest ever.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:43 AM
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Jockey complaints are usually the sign of a tough meet and discouraged horseplayers. Saratoga has been tough this year. The ride is an easy thing to blame.

That said, I feel in general the rides I've been seeing this summer at Saratoga and beyond have been far from some of the greatest ever.
I agree with this. It's easy to bame the rider when you're discouraged and I'm guilty of it myself.

But it's hard not to be critical, when you watch these guys totally unprepared or with no game plan at all out there. It's just flat out laziness and if you or I came to work that unprepared everyday we'd be gone within a week.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:09 AM
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I agree with this. It's easy to bame the rider when you're discouraged and I'm guilty of it myself.

But it's hard not to be critical, when you watch these guys totally unprepared or with no game plan at all out there. It's just flat out laziness and if you or I came to work that unprepared everyday we'd be gone within a week.
Bailey always seemed to do his homework which was a huge advantage. It's no difference then any other situation the people who are best prepared have the most success.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:53 PM
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Bailey always seemed to do his homework which was a huge advantage. It's no difference then any other situation the people who are best prepared have the most success.
Bailey was the best jockey I ever rode. We were in the paddock before a race at Saratoga where he was always really locked in and he asks me what I thought about the race. I said what do you have in mind? He had ridden a few of the other horses before, some of them a long time ago and didnt even show on the page. He proceeds to give me a quick rundown of how he sees the race unfolding based on the form and his memory of the other horses and how the track had been playing. He basically wanted to get an inside trip, covered up behind the pacesetters because he didnt think one was sound because he was getting out with him last race and the other wouldnt go 1 1/8th and that the inside was good that day. Of course the race sets up exactly as he thought, the leader got out in the stretch, bumped the rival outside him and we came right up the inside and won.

So the next day I ride Chavez on a live horse dropping in class and stretching out. (This is when he was a top rider). He did the look at the number on the shoulder coming into the paddock, I told him that the filly only had one run and not to get stopped when he made his move with her. He proceeds to go 8 wide in the first turn and 7 wide in the 2nd turn. Naturally the horse tires in the last 1/8th and comes in midpack. I ask him why he went so wide? He tells me that I said not to get stopped and that she cant get the distance. I said you are right, she can get 1 1/8th but no she cant get the 1 1/4 that she just ran. Of course he had no idea what I was talking about...

Ironically after winning the Eclipse Award that year he fired his agent because his wife said Jorge should be getting the same mounts as Bailey got...
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:39 PM
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I agree with this. It's easy to bame the rider when you're discouraged and I'm guilty of it myself.

But it's hard not to be critical, when you watch these guys totally unprepared or with no game plan at all out there. It's just flat out laziness and if you or I came to work that unprepared everyday we'd be gone within a week.
It is always great when the jocks are walking to the paddock and need to check the number on their arm because they have already forgotten or never knew in the first place.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:40 AM
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It is a tad ironic that this topic came up about a ride in Race 11 after the rides he put forth in the 9th and 10th.


Kind of a 3 race survey of every kind of ride imaginable... Front end theivery... Masterful rally from back... 'Where you goin'?' heel clip...
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:32 AM
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the thing is, you never know what he's gonna do at any point in the race. He has some closers into the race early, and snatches some speed types and tries to get them to pass.
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