Greenland Artic Ice Summer Melt Unprecedented

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Originally Posted by Danzig

maybe cavemen weren't just hunter/gatherers? perhaps when man invented the wheel back then, he had also invented an early version of the internal combustion engine, and we just hadn't discovered the fossils yet. what else can explain it?
that and apparently the much older version of the cow must have produced a lot more methane than our modern holsteins, etc.

cyclical?!?! you're obviously not paying attention. we can control weather, damnit. we just have to try harder.

The absolute best thing about this thread is the use of the word "unprecedented", then the mention of this thing happening about every 150 years or so.

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Koch Brothers-Funded Climate Change Skeptic: 'Global Warming is Real and Man is Causing It'

Prominent climate change denier now admits he was wrong
Richard Muller, who directed a Koch-funded climate change project, has undergone a 'total turnaround' on his stance on global warming, which he now admits is caused by human activity

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...as-wrong-video

This, according to Richard A. Muller, professor of physics at UC Berkeley, MacArthur Fellow and co-founder of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project. Never mind that the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and hundreds of other climatologists around the world came to such conclusions years ago.

The difference now is the source: Muller is a long-standing, colorful critic of prevailing climate science, and the Berkeley project was heavily funded by the Charles Koch Charitable Foundation, which, along with its libertarian petrochemical billionaire founder Charles G. Koch, has a considerable history of backing groups that deny climate change.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,7372823.story

(9 pm, 7/28): A NY Times op-ed by Richard Muller, BEST’s Founder and Scientific Director, has been published, “The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic.”

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...bon-pollution/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The absolute best thing about this thread is the use of the word "unprecedented", then the mention of this thing happening about every 150 years or so.

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saw today that the number of tornadoes this year is down significantly from the usual number of twisters. that's good news.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

saw today that the number of tornadoes this year is down significantly from the usual number of twisters. that's good news.

As are the hurricanes and that forecast. Long term predictions for this winter are already positive for snow/temperatures.
Maybe the sky isn't exactly falling?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

As are the hurricanes and that forecast. Long term predictions for this winter are already positive for snow/temperatures.
Maybe the sky isn't exactly falling?

Short-term weather and long-term climate pattern change are two different things.

The main science man for the climate change deniers, the one guy that fed all the "science sucks and is wrong" "there are other points of view" Faux outrage conflating science with politics over the past many years (easier to hate that liberal jackass Al Gore than understand the subject he was talking about) has now recanted his former scientific position, and said he was wrong about his former interpretation of climate change data.

Now he says climate change is real, it's here, and it's man-made.

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Originally Posted by Riot

Short-term weather and long-term climate pattern change are two different things.

The main science man for the climate change deniers, the one guy that fed all the "science sucks and is wrong" "there are other points of view" Faux outrage conflating science with politics over the past many years (easier to hate that liberal jackass Al Gore than understand the subject he was talking about) has now recanted his former scientific position, and said he was wrong about his former interpretation of climate change data.

Now he says climate change is real, it's here, and it's man-made.

Based on .0001% of the timeline is not long term data collection. It is "in recorded history". And exactly how accurate were the measuring devices for weather/climate in 1884?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Based on .0001% of the timeline is not long term data collection. It is "in recorded history". And exactly how accurate were the measuring devices for weather/climate in 1884?

Again, weather and climate are two different things. Our world climate info goes back thousands of years: glacial cores, rock samples, etc

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

As are the hurricanes and that forecast. Long term predictions for this winter are already positive for snow/temperatures.
Maybe the sky isn't exactly falling?

Maybe "people" are causing the hurricanes off the coast of Africa and they aren't planning on causing that many this year? Kinda goes along with the "people" are causing global warming theory.

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33

Maybe "people" are causing the hurricanes off the coast of Africa and they aren't planning on causing that many this year? Kinda goes along with the "people" are causing global warming theory.

Somali Pirates?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Somali Pirates?

http://benfry.com/writing/archives/274


i love this chart...have posted it before, used it as an avatar....