Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-02-2012, 10:28 AM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Here's the horse who finished 2nd by 28.5 legnths in that Grade 1 race. She just finished a good 3rd at Del Mar in a $73,000 ALW race a few days ago:





She's basically a solid 85 Beyer type on turf for a low percentage trainer.

Interestingly, her sire was a plodding son of A. P Indy that Pletcher trained who HATED grass. The broodmare sire Stuka won the Santa Anita Handicap in 1994 via DQ of champion older male The Wicked North. He never raced on turf, but had a pedigree for it.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-02-2012, 10:35 AM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

The best recent horse to come out of Chile was Lido Palace.

Here he is winning the first of his two Woodwards -- beating Tiznow and Albert The Great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzZmSndYUJY


Here's Lido Palace's best losing effort. Finishing in a photo with Street Cry for 2nd in Left Bank's super fast Whitney Handicap win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k73AXxl3eY


That was Left Bank's last race, he dropped dead after it. He was probably the best performer Todd Pletcher has ever trained in his entire career.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-02-2012, 05:48 PM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

What can you tell us about Quick Casablanca, the horse that ran second to her in her last race? I think there are a couple of grade one wins on her record since then too right?
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-02-2012, 06:33 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious View Post
What can you tell us about Quick Casablanca, the horse that ran second to her in her last race? I think there are a couple of grade one wins on her record since then too right?
Yes -- after Amani destroyed Quick Casablanca in the Chile St Ledger in her most recent race -- Quick Casablanca came back and won his next start at 24/1 odds over Argentina's Horse of the Year Expressive Halo (best horse in South American right now)

Here's the video of that race: It's a 400K stake and South America's most important weight-for-age event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qa9gBUBESs
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-02-2012, 07:09 PM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

All of the signs are pointing to this Amani as being a serious race horse. I'm looking forward to seeing her more than the Whitney or Vanderbilt or any other race this weekend. The fact that she hasn't been out in such a long time plus the fake dirt reserves me just a little but I'm still anxious to see her.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-02-2012, 07:20 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Drysdale is generally a poor layoff trainer.

Also, the horse is running without lasix and giving a slight competitive advantage away for no reason.

She has the most impressive South American form of any filly I've ever seen -- but I'll watch one.

A. P. Indy was 5th at Woodbine in a racce dominated by two hapless Canadian horses when Drysdale brought him back from just a 3+ month layoff after winning the Belmont. He eventually rebounded and won Horse of the Year.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-03-2012, 03:26 AM
LARHAGE's Avatar
LARHAGE LARHAGE is offline
Hawthorne
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 545
Default

I hope she's more ready than Fly Lexus Fly.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-03-2012, 03:52 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calzone Lord View Post
Drysdale is generally a poor layoff trainer.

Also, the horse is running without lasix and giving a slight competitive advantage away for no reason.

She has the most impressive South American form of any filly I've ever seen -- but I'll watch one.

A. P. Indy was 5th at Woodbine in a racce dominated by two hapless Canadian horses when Drysdale brought him back from just a 3+ month layoff after winning the Belmont. He eventually rebounded and won Horse of the Year.
The polytrack is probably a concern as well.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-03-2012, 11:58 AM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious View Post
All of the signs are pointing to this Amani as being a serious race horse. I'm looking forward to seeing her more than the Whitney or Vanderbilt or any other race this weekend. The fact that she hasn't been out in such a long time plus the fake dirt reserves me just a little but I'm still anxious to see her.
If she's anything like We Can Seek turned out to be I can't wait to see what names you call her.

Hope she's all that.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-03-2012, 12:20 PM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat View Post
If she's anything like We Can Seek turned out to be I can't wait to see what names you call her.
The expectations for her have to be a ton higher than they were for We Can Seek.





We Can Seek was a fairly useful plodder for Mark Henning. He finished 4th in the Whitney Handicap won by Invasor -- ahead of a few good also-rans like Premium Tap and Flower Alley.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.