REPORT: Fox News Spends Two-Plus Hours Distorting Obama's Small Business Comments

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

This president appears to understand what drives this economy perfectly - he's created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years, the GDP has risen, he's sanctioned against trade/China, he's supported our infrastucture support development, he's embraced new business technology, this president defends the poor and middle class, he understands exactly what they need when they are struggling, and he tries to work for them, outstandingly - and done it against historically complete obstruction and opposition by the opposing political party. And this president is hardly "liberal", let alone "socialist", in his financial/business approach.

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.

Don't stop believing.
This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Don't stop believing. This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written.

Really? We don't need "belief", nor do we need "logical people" to "confirm" anything. We just need the facts to confirm. So here's what I said, below. You are free to disprove it with facts that show otherwise:

1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years

2) the GDP has risen

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Really? We don't need "belief", nor do we need "logical people" to "confirm" anything. We just need the facts to confirm. So here's what I said, below. You are free to disprove it with facts that show otherwise:

1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years

2) the GDP has risen

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.

Everyone is always required to disprove your theories, you never show anything to prove your statements are in fact true.
Why are the jobs numbers so miserable if the President is creating jobs?
Why are all the new business technologies failing miserably despite the hundreds of millions of dollars being thrown their way?
If the GDP is going so well why is unemployment so high?
What specifically has been changed in our infrastructure?
Are there any measurable benefits that you can quantify from the trade sanctions against China (makers of our Olympic uniforms, BTW)?

Please defend your position with facts and numbers.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Everyone is always required to disprove your theories, you never show anything to prove your statements are in fact true.
Why are the jobs numbers so miserable if the President is creating jobs?
Why are all the new business technologies failing miserably despite the hundreds of millions of dollars being thrown their way?
If the GDP is going so well why is unemployment so high?
What specifically has been changed in our infrastructure?
Are there any measurable benefits that you can quantify from the trade sanctions against China (makers of our Olympic uniforms, BTW)?

Please defend your position with facts and numbers.

I have posted factual support for 100% of those claims on this board several times previously over the past year, and you know it. You are free to disprove them. Go ahead, or be quiet. YOU say they are not true - go ahead. Put your money where your mouth is. You always come on saying "that's not true", and you never put up. So put up now.

[Riot]

1) "Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years" - proof here:



2) "the GDP has risen" - proof here:



3) "Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China" - proof here:

US hails WTO (trade sanctions) win vs. China on electronic payments
http://news.yahoo.com/us-wins-wto-ba...170745530.html

China Is Secondary Target of Sanctions on Iran
Other importers of Iranian oil have been granted exemptions, but Washington has refused to grant them to China

Etc ... multiple, just search on USA-China trade sanctions

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development - proof here

Obama infrastructure bank
Obama infrastructure support bill
Obama stimulus infrastructure support American Recovery Reinvestment Act

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology - proof here

Medical innovation, technology innovation, ARRA
"Obama administration launches $26 million multi-agency competition to strengthen advanced manufacturing clusters across the nation - 14 federal agencies collaborate to enhance global competitiveness of US manufacturers and create jobs" http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/ETA20121082.htm

Clip Clop wrote, about the above: "Don't stop believing. This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written." It's confirmed. Hell, it's been all over the news for the past three years. Being a rational person, influenced by fact and truth, I'm sure you now acknowledge it's true. Thanks.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have posted factual support for 100% of those claims on this board several times previously over the past year, and you know it. You are free to disprove them. Go ahead, or be quiet. YOU say they are not true - go ahead. Put your money where your mouth is. You always come on saying "that's not true", and you never put up. So put up now.

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

Just address this one. Humor me. Is this about rare earth material?
One benefit that has happened as a result.

Complaining the the WTO doesn't actually produce anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

Just address this one. Humor me. Is this about rare earth material?
One benefit that has happened as a result.

You should read a newspaper now and then. You are apparently completely ignorant of what this president does for business. As a small-business owner, I'd think you'd pay attention to things that directly influence you.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

You should read a newspaper now and then.

Opinions.

Looking for measurable results from the private sector. Those graphs are priceless by the way.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

You should read a newspaper now and then. You are apparently completely ignorant of what this president does for business. As a small-business owner, I'd think you'd pay attention to things that directly influence you.

Like all the roads he built for me, or that the government created the internet? He is truly the small business owners President. Praise Obama.

APRAnet was the beginning of the internet, not government tech (thought the military was watching) between Stanford and UCLA scientists.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years
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when a one trillion dollar stimulus package was passed... and promised to create, what, 2.3 million jobs? this quoted statement was actually a HUGE Obama failure.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

when a one trillion dollar stimulus package was passed... and promised to create, what, 2.3 million jobs? this quoted statement was actually a HUGE Obama failure.

Oh well ya, if you are looking at actual numbers...He (all by himself just ask him) created hundreds of thousands of jobs!! That they were seasonal, govt, underpaid and for a very particular demo that wasn't really hurting anyway doesn't really matter.

It is like the GDP, it went up, way slower than it has to to sustain life but up nonetheless, SUCCESS!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Oh well ya, if you are looking at actual numbers...He (all by himself just ask him) created hundreds of thousands of jobs!! That they were seasonal, govt, underpaid and for a very particular demo that wasn't really hurting anyway doesn't really matter.

Provide those job breakdown numbers you have, that support your ridiculous fantasy statement.

Thanks!

Here's a hint: the largest loss of jobs has occurred in one sector you name, above.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Provide those job breakdown numbers you have, that support your ridiculous fantasy statement.

Thanks!

Here's a hint: the largest loss of jobs has occurred in one sector you name, above.

Because the "massive creation of this administration" has been outstripped by the loos of jobs in the same sector, all sectors actually.

Holy cow I think you might come away from this understanding how it all works!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Because the "massive creation of this administration" has been outstripped by the loos of jobs in the same sector, all sectors actually.

Holy cow I think you might come away from this understanding how it all works!!

Can't answer the question, huh?

You said that the hundreds of thousands of jobs created during the Obama administration were, "seasonal, govt, underpaid and for a very particular demo that wasn't really hurting anyway doesn't really matter."

So please, provide the job breakdown numbers to support your allegation. Prove it.

Or stop making false allegations up out of thin air. I know that one category you list has had massive job losses, not gains.