Romney’s Bain Years: New Evidence, Same Conclusion

[AlreadyHome]

Originally Posted by Danzig

every president since martin van buren has come into office with the country in debt.
and both parties have contributed to the current mess in d.c, with congress deserving the lion's share of the blame. no one person caused it, and certainly no one person can fix it. but keep trying to make it all about race. for some it is, for many it's not.

Yeah but the guy after Van Buren wasn't black. That's apparently very important.

wow just cause i say my Prezident is black, well if he or she was white
i'll be sayin My President is white.
and the only race that's going on is Romney vs Obama
i don't know why Romney is running against B/O, Obama is @the finish line With the Flag waving.

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

fk politics who has the power has to do what ever is right for the country and its people plain and simple.

opps gotta go now is Hot, 94 and i'm gong in the pool.
water is 81 nice.............

for the record I'm not racist but my comment are @the edge

i love white people black people everyday people i'm like Obama universal
ohhh i love horses too.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

Hey, they don't cotton to talk like that around here...but keep up the good work..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome

wow just cause i say my Prezident is black, well if he or she was white
i'll be sayin My President is white.
and the only race that's going on is Romney vs Obama
i don't know why Romney is running against B/O, Obama is @the finish line With the Flag waving.

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

fk politics who has the power has to do what ever is right for the country and its people plain and simple.
opps gotta go now is Hot, 94 and i'm gong in the pool.
water is 81 nice.............

for the record I'm not racist but my comment are @the edge

i love white people black people everyday people i'm like Obama universal
ohhh i love horses too.

i mentioned race in my reply because you seem to always include it. and no, it's not just republicans that have caused the issues. and i doubt it's just dems who fix it.
and the race is far from over. i know you're a democratic/obama cheerleader-but it always puzzles me when fans get stars in their eyes and lose their ability to see the entire picture. this country has been going in the wrong direction for some time, and it's the collective inability by the entire fed to get things right that has caused our current issues. the banking de-regulation was signed into law by none other than pres. bill clinton. banking woes lead to failures in many areas.

and the wars were both approved by a democratic controlled congress, not just the republican president.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and the wars were both approved by a democratic controlled congress, not just the republican president.

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by bigrun

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

Yup, so stupid he fooled them all.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

bigrun, if the wool was pulled over anyone's eyes in that regard, why has there been no investigation? no hearings? no one has come forward and said anything was 'cooked'. why do you continue to claim that, when there's no evidence? congress was lied to, but did nothing? they will have hearings about drugs in horse racing, steroids in baseball, but they're not going to bother with lies from intelligence agencies? you really think that?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by bigrun

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

You mean the same information that both Bush and Congress had at the time that they voted on the wars? Please show any evidence that Bush had any different information than Congress, and many Democrats who voted for the wars, had at the time of the vote.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and the wars were both approved by a democratic controlled congress.

Given that the Republicans were in the majority in the House from '95 - '06, I don't think this statement is quite accurate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Given that the Republicans were in the majority in the House from '95 - '06, I don't think this statement is quite accurate.

oh, sorry...guess my memory was faulty. didn't think the dems took over both houses til after that period
at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

81 for, 126 against

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

i thought the first vote, to invade afganistan, was unanimous? that's the one i was thinking of, not iraq. didn't know the party split, just that it was a majority vote.

yeah, like i said here:

at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

3/4 in one, over 2/3 on the other. had the controlling party wrong, but overall was talking about congress as a whole voting-wise.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i thought the first vote, to invade afganistan, was unanimous? that's the one i was thinking of, not iraq.

Originally Posted by bigrun

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

bigrun, if the wool was pulled over anyone's eyes in that regard, why has there been no investigation? no hearings? no one has come forward and said anything was 'cooked'. why do you continue to claim that, when there's no evidence? congress was lied to, but did nothing? they will have hearings about drugs in horse racing, steroids in baseball, but they're not going to bother with lies from intelligence agencies? you really think that?

And i was thinking of Iraq, guess i wasn't clear about that...

[pointman]

Originally Posted by AlreadyHome

wow just cause i say my Prezident is black, well if he or she was white
i'll be sayin My President is white.
and the only race that's going on is Romney vs Obama
i don't know why Romney is running against B/O, Obama is @the finish line With the Flag waving.

Bush fked everything up going to war because of his father and the machismo he had against the middle east. and that cause the country almost everything, and here comes Obama to set the future in motion and fix these stupid issues republicans started.

its so fked up the american dream is a nightmare......

fk politics who has the power has to do what ever is right for the country and its people plain and simple.

opps gotta go now is Hot, 94 and i'm gong in the pool.
water is 81 nice.............

for the record I'm not racist but my comment are @the edge

i love white people black people everyday people i'm like Obama universal
ohhh i love horses too.

Our country is doomed when there are so many fools like this in it.

[Danzig]

people like to say 'congress was lied to' as an excuse, a whitewash...but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all. it's simple common sense. fast and furious generated a contempt charge against the AG, but no one has had anything filed for 'lying to congress to cause two wars'. because it didn't happen. that scandal would have been huge, and heads would have been rolling like mad. a president was impeached for firing a member of his cabinet, another impeached for lying under oath about whether he had any shenanigans with an intern. but not one charge filed for causing not one war, but two? because it didn't happen.