The Breaking Romney Story

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

... I can assure you I am unimpressed with anything political on either side of the aisle. Somehow, someway, political reform will happen in the near future.

It's called being a voter In between Tweeting, mowing the grass, raising the kids, and grocery shopping, we are responsible for governing our own democratic destiny.

It would be great if we could send all of these snake-oil salesmen/women politicians to Antarctica and start over.

We get a chance to start over constantly. Every year. Few eligible Americans vote. Fewer yet bother to even learn basics about a candidate.

Florida, the land of seniors, elected as governor the man who ran the company that was found guilty of the largest $$ Medicare fraud in history, and who campaigned on getting rid of their Medicare.

Hello? Florida voters? Hello?

As for those pk4 takeout rates......well.......you have to win every once in a while to be affected:

LOL - Well, we agree on that, certainly

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's called being a voter In between Tweeting, mowing the grass, raising the kids, and grocery shopping, we are responsible for governing our own democratic destiny.



We get a chance to start over constantly. Every year. Few eligible Americans vote. Fewer yet bother to even learn basics about a candidate.

Florida, the land of seniors, elected as governor the man who ran the company that was found guilty of the largest $$ Medicare fraud in history, and who campaigned on getting rid of their Medicare.

Hello? Florida voters? Hello?



LOL - Well, we agree on that, certainly

Those old folks down there don't have puters, send your post to AARP and have them publish it in their mag...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Those old folks down there don't have puters, send your post to AARP and have them publish it in their mag...

OMG, I have tons of retired, ultra-conservative family on Marco and in Naples ... they all watch Faux News and are so misinformed as to reality it's appalling.

Yes, they believe Obama is an evil Kenyan socialist without a birth certificate who has raised their taxes and created death panels with Obamacare.

I asked one if they'd noticed their Medicare Rx costs go down this year - said yes. I said, "due to Obamacare and donut hole provision adjustments" They denied it could be possible that was the reason. What can you do?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

OMG, I have tons of retired, ultra-conservative family on Marco and in Naples ... they all watch Faux News and are so misinformed as to reality it's appalling.

Yes, they believe Obama is an evil Kenyan socialist without a birth certificate who has raised their taxes and created death panels with Obamacare.

I asked one if they'd noticed their Medicare Rx costs go down this year - said yes. I said, "due to Obamacare and donut hole provision adjustments" They denied it could be possible that was the reason. What can you do?

You could show them proof, in writing from within the law as written. Always (almost always) works for me when making a point.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

You could show them proof, in writing from within the law as written. Always (almost always) works for me when making a point.

That doesn't work when you present proof to someone, but the person simply refuses to read it.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

That doesn't work when you present proof to someone, but the person simply refuses to read it.

If it came from within the actual document how could they possibly refute that? Pull the pages out and say look it is right here, you are saving because of this. I can send you the link to my copy of the ACA if you need one. It is an exhaustive read but really quite informative and terrifying at the same time. Lots of great ideas mixed in with all kinds of nonsense that had no place in such a thing.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

If it came from within the actual document how could they possibly refute that?

They just refuse to read it.

You know how some folks can be

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

OMG, I have tons of retired, ultra-conservative family on Marco and in Naples ... they all watch Faux News and are so misinformed as to reality it's appalling.

Yes, they believe Obama is an evil Kenyan socialist without a birth certificate who has raised their taxes and created death panels with Obamacare.

I asked one if they'd noticed their Medicare Rx costs go down this year - said yes. I said, "due to Obamacare and donut hole provision adjustments" They denied it could be possible that was the reason. What can you do?

My sis in PA is one of them!...watches Fox and thinks Obama slipped into the country from Haiti after a Kenyan vessel dropped him here..

And my best friend's wife told me 4 years ago, 'you know Obama's a Muslem'..

Both still have the same attitude only maybe slightly worse...