Affluent families:Support the troops.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I would prefer if the people with influence would think a lot longer and harder before committing our troops to begin with. And maybe if they served, or had someone in their family who did.....it seems those who most view war as glorious are those who have no clue about what it actually entails. It angers me to see soldiers whose lives are permanently alterd, and for what? What cause of ours was so righteous, so just?

you are talking to the saved here...You ever see Fahrenheit 9/11 where Moore (bad guy i know) was outside Congress trying to nail a member and ask them if they had anyone serving in the military...didn't get a response from anyone...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

you are talking to the saved here...You ever see Fahrenheit 9/11 where Moore (bad guy i know) was outside Congress trying to nail a member and ask them if they had anyone serving in the military...didn't get a response from anyone...

haven't seen it, don't care for moore-altho i did enjoy roger and me. the further removed they are, the less i think they understand exactly what they're demanding of their troops.
yes, they volunteer-doesn't mean they volunteered for a bs reason.

there are three things needed to wage war, money, money and yet more money.
another quote is something like war's begin when you say, but they don't end when you will.
another on what's needed/reasons: including a righteous cause, a noble intent, and that you can win. no one cares how righteous your cause if you lose. and there's no sense taking up arms if you can't accomplish what you set out to do-hello, afganistan....

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

haven't seen it, don't care for moore-altho i did enjoy roger and me. the further removed they are, the less i think they understand exactly what they're demanding of their troops.
yes, they volunteer-doesn't mean they volunteered for a bs reason.

there are three things needed to wage war, money, money and yet more money.
another quote is something like war's begin when you say, but they don't end when you will.
another on what's needed/reasons: including a righteous cause, a noble intent, and that you can win. no one cares how righteous your cause if you lose. and there's no sense taking up arms if [b]you can't accomplish what you set out to do-hello, afganistan;/b]....

Said a million times, take out terrorist bases, capture or kill bin laden and get the hell out...March-2003 the month that will live in infamy..i.e. Iraq..

'Wars begin where you will but they do not end where you please' - Machiavelli

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Said a million times, take out terrorist bases, capture or kill bin laden and get the hell out...March-2003 the month that will live in infamy..i.e. Iraq..

'Wars begin where you will but they do not end where you please' - Machiavelli

yeah, that's it..had the gist of it.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, that's it..had the gist of it.

Had that quote in my sig box few years ago...

[dellinger63]

I’d like also to commend those who served and are serving who are from affluent families. They joined not for education or job training but for love and duty to the country.

And while the plan for affluent families, whose children did not serve, to support the troops is admirable it should not be needed. Simply put the Federal Government should put support of the troops at the top of its priority list.

If we have billions to give away to less than friendly governments, to failed companies like Solyndra, Nevada Geothermal Power etc., to endless unemployment benefits we have the money to support our troops. Problem is we have a President who has his priorities completely out of whack.

What the affluent families planning to lend support need to do is use the Ronald McDonald House as a blueprint and keep any money out of the hands of the Federal Government currently failing the vets.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If we have billions to give away to less than friendly governments, to failed companies like Solyndra, Nevada Geothermal Power etc., to endless unemployment benefits we have the money to support our troops. Problem is we have a President who has his priorities completely out of whack.

What the affluent families planning to lend support need to do is use the Ronald McDonald House as a blueprint and keep any money out of the hands of the Federal Government currently failing the vets.

You might also say if it wasn't for the previous president we wouldn't be funding two wars..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I’d like also to commend those who served and are serving who are from affluent families. They joined not for education or job training but for love and duty to the country.

And while the plan for affluent families, whose children did not serve, to support the troops is admirable it should not be needed. Simply put the Federal Government should put support of the troops at the top of its priority list.

If we have billions to give away to less than friendly governments, to failed companies like Solyndra, Nevada Geothermal Power etc., to endless unemployment benefits we have the money to support our troops. Problem is we have a President who has his priorities completely out of whack.
What the affluent families planning to lend support need to do is use the Ronald McDonald House as a blueprint and keep any money out of the hands of the Federal Government currently failing the vets.

historically, troop support has never been at the top of any presidents list-or any country's leaders for that matter. the army is a tool. individuals don't mean squat, and never have. but of course in your mind, only obama is the issue-and it's a ridiculous contention.
army funding is mostly to corporations. the quicker people get their mind wrapped around 'it's always where the money is' the faster we might see real reform. until big money doesn't have a say in every decision, nothing will really change.
whether it be energy, foreign policy, health care, etc-just look at what benefits the moneyed. that's what will decide which direction is taken. money controls everything. our leaders, the parties, the elected.