18 Reasons the Affordable Care Act Is the Greatest Achievement for the Middle Class

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Originally Posted by Danzig

yep, i know it. and many states are opting not to set them up. the work involved is astronomical. the amount of info that will have to be available is mind-boggling.

States can use those funds to set up whatever state-specific type of exchange they want. Oregon and Vermont, for example, are going full-on single payer via the ACA in their states.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

States can use those funds to set up whatever state-specific type of exchange they want. Oregon and Vermont, for example, are going full-on single payer via the ACA in their states.

With who as the provider?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

With who as the provider?

Regular physicians, hospitals, etc. The ususal.

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Attention, residents of:

Georgia
Wisconsin
Iowa
South Dakota
Kansas
Louisiana
Florida
South Carolina
Indiana
New Jersey

Your House of Representatives, your Senate, your President, and your Supreme Court has given you an expansion of healthcare in your state under the Affordable Care Act.

While every other Republican-lead state will, of course, follow the law to help their citizens, your governor has personally decided he's not gonna let you get the healthcare you are now legally entitled to, that everyone else in the country will be getting.

Sorry. Sucks for you

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...ans-uninsured/

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by Riot

Attention, residents of:

Georgia
Wisconsin
Iowa
South Dakota
Kansas
Louisiana
Florida
South Carolina
Indiana
New Jersey

Your House of Representatives, your Senate, your President, and your Supreme Court has given you an expansion of healthcare in your state under the Affordable Care Act.

While every other Republican-lead state will, of course, follow the law to help their citizens, your governor has personally decided he's not gonna let you get the healthcare you are now legally entitled to, that everyone else in the country will be getting.

Sorry. Sucks for you

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...ans-uninsured/

The law does nothing to "get you healthcare."

The law reforms insurance and healthcare financing. That should have come to you through you dozens of posts.


When you need a break from teacing here, study a little about the tendency for Health Insurer profitability to run in interesting cycles in terms of profit and loss.

Should the people in those single-payor state feel good about what will happen when the state take a loss , say 2-3 years in a row? It happens.

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Originally Posted by paulo537

The law does nothing to "get you healthcare."

Actually, yes, the law indeed expands the eligibility for Medicaid. Which is exactly what these governors are refusing to extend to the class of eligible citizens.

Which means that although these citizens were indeed given access to healthcare by the ACA Medicaid expansion, these governors have decided they don't get it.

The law reforms insurance and healthcare financing. That should have come to you through you dozens of posts.

You might want to read up on the law a little more, so you can learn what else it does.

Should the people in those single-payor state feel good about what will happen when the state take a loss , say 2-3 years in a row? It happens.

See, I just have to laugh when some get on their high horse, but are facing the horses azz. You might want to realize that the term is "single-payer", not single payor. A payor is the person who writes the check. The system is "single-payer". Yes, the person who writes the check would be the "payor".

Should the people in those single-payor state feel good about what will happen when the state take a loss , say 2-3 years in a row? It happens.

The states are not paying completely for the first five years of coverage, are they? If states cannot administer the program to run without loss over the initial five years of test program, financed by the federal government, they can adjust it. Don't you think? Why would that be any valid reason to not implement the program? A program proven already to work in Mass?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Regular physicians, hospitals, etc. The ususal.

Coverage provider for the single payer. Is it the state? Is it the Federal Gov't? Is it medicare? Is it a private company signed up to take in the huddle masses and already sick of Oregon and Vermont?
Or is it more of the same like physicians and hospitals?
Smilie all you like, being vague about something so revolutionary as single payer should really be accompanied by a detail or two about the system that will one day save America and put us on the level of all the other world class countries like Spain, Italy and France...

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Coverage provider for the single payer. Is it the state? Is it the Federal Gov't? Is it medicare? Is it a private company signed up to take in the huddle masses and already sick of Oregon and Vermont?
Or is it more of the same like physicians and hospitals?
Smilie all you like, being vague about something so revolutionary as single payer should really be accompanied by a detail or two about the system that will one day save America and put us on the level of all the other world class countries like Spain, Italy and France...

Have you paid zero attention at all to the discussion of the Affordable Care Act on this board?

What you just said, above, makes no sense at all

To help you: "providers" are the ones that provide the health care. You asked who would be the providers: that would be private doctors and hospitals, as are providers now.

Perhaps what you want to know who is going to administer a single payer program in those states? The state would.

Where does the money come from for the new state insurance exchanges? The federal government, via the ACA.

Again, to repeat a basic benefit of the Affordable Care Act, because clearly you've been paying zero attention for the past three years, or the past week: Each state gets to set up state insurance exchanges, where citizens of the state can purchase insurance. Those two states will set up single payer exchanges, where the state will be the payer.

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by Riot

Have you paid zero attention at all to the discussion of the Affordable Care Act on this board?

What you just said, above, makes no sense at all

To help you: "providers" are the ones that provide the health care. You asked who would be the providers: that would be private doctors and hospitals, as are providers now.

Perhaps what you want to know who is going to administer a single payer program in those states? The state would.

Where does the money come from for the new state insurance exchanges? The federal government, via the ACA.

Again, to repeat a basic benefit of the Affordable Care Act, because clearly you've been paying zero attention for the past three years, or the past week: Each state gets to set up state insurance exchanges. Those two states will set up single payer exchanges, where the state will be the payer.

Miss Marple,

It's Payor.

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Originally Posted by paulo537

Miss Marple,

It's Payor.

So sorry. Please, everybody read the last word in the above paragraph to be "payor"