Miraculous Miss.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I actually made a very good score with Wonder Lady in the Demoiselle. I had no idea why she was 10-1 and she seemed clearly to be the only alternative to favored Better Now. One thing was clear to me, Wait a While wasn't a good horse then, and isn't one now, and I had no idea why she was second choice that day.

Mike, these aren't even good bad horses, they are less than mediocre supposed good horses. I know you didn't say she was a star, but you are totally biased in regards to this horse, and can't really believe she is technically better than mediocre allowance horses. She is just too flat out slow. And, I feel VERY confident her best races are behind her....not in front of her.

How did Sis City do at Monmouth a couple weeks ago?

Well what is Bushfire? You are telling me that based on that staggerfest down the lane that she will have any impact at all in her next races going longer. I thought that race was by far the most disgusting race of the day.
It wouldnt have taken much of an effort to beat her, thats for sure.
I disagree on Wait A While, I think shes a very nice horse and better than the horses who ran in the Acorn. Todd had to juggle the three year olds and of course had to run the Coolmore horse in the Acorn, its a given. I think Wait A While would have crushed them, of that i have no doubt.
And lets see where her best races are after Saturday. Thats a decent field she is facing for 175 grand.
Sis City is obviously done. But Ricky and Goldfarb made an incredible score with her and I doubt they care much. I doubt the pople who bought her care much either. Broodmares who have won grade ones are very hard to find. Look at what Riskaverse went for at auction last year.
Rick just made another bundle on the Silver Train deal. People can hate him all they want, He just keeps winning big races and making huge deposits in the bank. I doubt he cares much what people think.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well what is Bushfire? You are telling me that based on that staggerfest down the lane that she will have any impact at all in her next races going longer. I thought that race was by far the most disgusting race of the day.
It wouldnt have taken much of an effort to beat her, thats for sure.
I disagree on Wait A While, I think shes a very nice horse and better than the horses who ran in the Acorn. Todd had to juggle the three year olds and of course had to run the Coolmore horse in the Acorn, its a given. I think Wait A While would have crushed them, of that i have no doubt.
And lets see where her best races are after Saturday. Thats a decent field she is facing for 175 grand.
Sis City is obviously done. But Ricky and Goldfarb made an incredible score with her and I doubt they care much. I doubt the pople who bought her care much either. Broodmares who have won grade ones are very hard to find. Look at what Riskaverse went for at auction last year.
Rick just made another bundle on the Silver Train deal. People can hate him all they want, He just keeps winning big races and making huge deposits in the bank. I doubt he cares much what people think.

dutrow is a sharp one no doubt..puts that one in for 14k and wins ..nobody claims it ..to funny...he must have laughed all nite...

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

dutrow is a sharp one no doubt..puts that one in for 14k and wins ..nobody claims it ..to funny...he must have laughed all nite...

He laughs a lot. How about claiming Sis City for 60 grand and making all that cash and selling her for 2 mill?

[blackthroatedwind]

Mike, remember when you say things that I usually know the true stories, so perhaps you are telling tales to other people, but remember that I know the real stories.

Bushfire is certainly no killer, but you know what, she's pretty good, and a better horse than Wonder Lady Anne L and that has been fairly conclusively proven. Her Kentucky Oaks effort was probably the best in that race as she certainly ran far and away the best race of anyone who was anywhere near the pace that day.

My point about the Acorn was mostly about a racetrack that was much more than unkind to ANY horse trying to make up ground. The simple fact is that none did. Take a good look at the completely ineffectual closes that every member of the field put in during that " staggerfest down the lane ". Sorry if I will defer to Wonder lady Anne L's actual pps when I reserve judgement that she would have been any more effectual than the remaining members of that field.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Mike, remember when you say things that I usually know the true stories, so perhaps you are telling tales to other people, but remember that I know the real stories.

Bushfire is certainly no killer, but you know what, she's pretty good, and a better horse than Wonder Lady Anne L and that has been fairly conclusively proven. Her Kentucky Oaks effort was probably the best in that race as she certainly ran far and away the best race of anyone who was anywhere near the pace that day.

My point about the Acorn was mostly about a racetrack that was much more than unkind to ANY horse trying to make up ground. The simple fact is that none did. Take a good look at the completely ineffectual closes that every member of the field put in during that " staggerfest down the lane ". Sorry if I will defer to Wonder lady Anne L's actual pps when I reserve judgement that she would have been any more effectual than the remaining members of that field.

Call me on a tale, go for it, and be specific.

[ateamstupid]

Sorry Mike, Miraculous Miss has a much stronger kick than your horse. She would've won the race if a closer was gonna win it.

[chupster2]

From Tim Woolley racing:

Miraculous Miss (flipped in the gate in the Acorn) is back at Fair Hill and recovering. It does not appear she sustained any long term physical damage, but a few cuts and bruises.
update wednesday, 10:10 am

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Mike, remember when you say things that I usually know the true stories, so perhaps you are telling tales to other people, but remember that I know the real stories.

Bushfire is certainly no killer, but you know what, she's pretty good, and a better horse than Wonder Lady Anne L and that has been fairly conclusively proven. Her Kentucky Oaks effort was probably the best in that race as she certainly ran far and away the best race of anyone who was anywhere near the pace that day.

My point about the Acorn was mostly about a racetrack that was much more than unkind to ANY horse trying to make up ground. The simple fact is that none did. Take a good look at the completely ineffectual closes that every member of the field put in during that " staggerfest down the lane ". Sorry if I will defer to Wonder lady Anne L's actual pps when I reserve judgement that she would have been any more effectual than the remaining members of that field.

Then we disagree. I think that Wait A while would have buried these, buried them. I think that several horses who ran just didn't fire. Ermine is much better than that, as is teammate. I'm not saying that WOnder lady is better than those OVERALL as a horse. But I think on that day, she may have been aided by the pace setup and the fact that noone fired. She is much better than last Romance to me. And thats what I base it on. And they have the same type of style.
Big difference between ineffectual close and horses just not firing. They bleed, they entrap, etc and sometimes a bucnh just dont fire for whatever reason. It happens. Remember scorpions' Jim dandy win? Congaree bled, Ap didnt fire, etc. The best horse doesnt always win.