Wisconsin Recall

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

quote the bill, not what the shepherds have fed you. ACTUAL quotes from either document.

Assertions with no proof are dismissed.

This is the part where you tell me to do my own homework to prove your point right?

No, this is the part where you were supposed to have paid attention during the Walker budget, during the past year, and notice that the tax cuts he gave were funded by cutting the pensions of the public unions. You know, the part that was all over the news and caused the recalls

"Quote the part" ?? - yeah - the whole budget. The parts that are all over the news.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, this is the part where you were supposed to have paid attention during the Walker budget, during the past year, and notice that the tax cuts he gave were funded by cutting the pensions of the public unions. You know, the part that was all over the news and caused the recalls

"Quote the part" ?? - yeah - the whole budget. The parts that are all over the news.

Quotes from the "news" will be fine too, I am sure they have direct quotes from the budgets for you to believe what they are feeding you as opposed to opinion and rhetoric.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Quotes from the "news" will be fine too, I am sure they have direct quotes from the budgets for you to believe what they are feeding you as opposed to opinion and rhetoric.

Act 10. Read it. The whole thing. You can read newspaper quotes about it, too.

I'm just shocked to see you admit you haven't the first clue about why the Wisconsin recalls occurred, and what happened to start them - the votes, the laws that were passed.

You've heard of the Ryan Budget, right?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Act 10. Read it. The whole thing. You can read newspaper quotes about it, too.

I'm just shocked to see you admit you haven't the first clue about why the Wisconsin recalls occurred, and what happened to start them - the votes, the laws that were passed.

You've heard of the Ryan Budget, right?

Act 10 PDF search for tax cuts...no matches found.

"66.0518 Defined benefit pension plans. A local
governmental unit, as defined in s. 66.0131 (1) (a), may
not establish a defined benefit pension plan for its
employees unless the plan requires the employees to pay
half of all actuarially required contributions for funding
benefits under the plan and prohibits the local governmental
unit from paying on behalf of an employee any of
the employee’s share of the actuarially required contributions."
-seems reasonable, no?

search for wealthy...no matches found.

search for income...all results are for State income or reference incomes levels relative to poverty levels and the benefits available to those folks.

Unable to find any mention of cuts for the wealthy in there.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Act 10 PDF search for tax cuts...no matches found.

Think really hard about this concept of "somebody has to pay for the tax cuts". Go back to when the Wisconsin state senate passed the union busting bill. Read the newspapers around that time. Wisconsin was in a massive deficit. Who got the tax cuts? Who got income cut to pay for it? What was in Act 10?

You say that simply doesn't exist. Open your eyes.

Pretending it doesn't exist unless you find one legal document that has actual language that says, "we will cut taxes for the rich by taking pension money" is laughably obtuse.

The actuality is present in both the Walker's Wisconsin budget bill, and the Ryan budget.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Think really hard about this concept of "somebody has to pay for the tax cuts". Go back to when the Wisconsin state senate passed the union busting bill. Read the newspapers around that time. Wisconsin was in a massive deficit. Who got the tax cuts? Who got income cut to pay for it?

You say that doesn't exist. Open your eyes.

Pretending it doesn't exist unless you find one legal document that has actual language that says, "we will cut taxes for the rich by taking pension money" is laughably obtuse.

But you say that it is written.

Proof or dismissal. Your rules.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

But you say that it is written.

Proof or dismissal. Your rules.

Yes. Read the Walker Budget. Who got tax cuts? Who paid for it? This budget already exists. It's right there for you. It caused the recalls. Again - you pretending it doesn't exist unless you find one legal document that has actual language that says in one sentence, "we will cut taxes for the rich by taking pension money" is laughably obtuse. Let alone naive.

Read the budgets. Who got tax cuts in Wisconsin under this budget? Who gets income cuts (via pension and benefit cuts) to make up the difference? It's not that hard for most people to see. It's the reason for the Wisconsin recalls.

Read the Ryan budget. Who gets tax cuts? Who pays for it?