Saturday Sizzler Play Along

[pointman]

I'm not really sure what else they could do. The 1 was a valid DQ as he started before the others regardless of him rearing up. The 2 was a valid non-starter as the starter had a hold of his bridle. There is no jurisdiction in the country as fair as NY in declaring non-starters. I disagree that NY has the worst rules in the country, FL is far worse for one.

Bel 9

$20W 14
$20DD 14/6,8

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

I'm not really sure what else they could do. The 1 was a valid DQ as he started before the others regardless of him rearing up. The 2 was a valid non-starter as the starter had a hold of his bridle. There is no jurisdiction in the country as fair as NY in declaring non-starters. I disagree that NY has the worst rules in the country, FL is far worse for one.

Bel 9

$20W 14
$20DD 14/6,8

Why did they start the race?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

Why did they start the race?

Obviously the starter and the guys in the gate were not in sync. But. I don't see what else they should do. Other jurisdictions may have let the result stand which is not fair either. I guess you can argue they should have voided the race and refunded as Coach said, but I can count the number of times that has happened on one hand. Maybe the State will use this race as an excuse to fully revoke NYRA's franchise.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

Obviously the starter and the guys in the gate were not in sync. But. I don't see what else they should do. Other jurisdictions may have let the result stand which is not fair either. I guess you can argue they should have voided the race and refunded as Coach said, but I can count the number of times that has happened on one hand. Maybe the State will use this race as an excuse to fully revoke NYRA's franchise.

A rule is a rule so I have to live with it but they need to take a look at that rule. The bettor should not be punished for a ****up by starter or gate crew that wipes out the bettors interest at the start.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

I think the DQ was bad, it should have been a non starter.looked as though the gate crew guy was still holding the #1 horse as he broke through the gate.

I didn't think the starter had a hold of the 1, but if you saw that then you are right the 1 should have been declared a non-starter. If there is a problem here I don't think it is the rule that is the problem, rather the interpretation of the stewards would be. I can't see how you can reward a horse who started before the others.

[declansharbor]

HOLLYWOOD r4

$10W $30P on 8

$4 ex

1,4,5 / 8

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

I didn't think the starter had a hold of the 1, but if you saw that then you are right the 1 should have been declared a non-starter. If there is a problem here I don't think it is the rule that is the problem, rather the interpretation of the stewards would be. I can't see how you can reward a horse who started before the others.

A horse should NEVER get the chance to start ahead of the others. If the horse does then the starter didn't do his job.

[pointman]

Hol 6

$0.50-$75
6- 4,6,8
7- 2,4,5,8,12
8- 9,10
9- 1,2,3,6,11

$20DD 6/2,8,12

[Scav]

Expecting #6 Ginnys Classic to run huge today. Trainer has wanted to run her a one turn mile since last year (mostly cause asking her to turn is asking too much), and has speed, she romps on class but really depends if new bit will work.

The right thing to do is pay a guy to hold a flag at the start of the turn to let the jockeys know a dq has happened. This is what occurs in real sports. A gun shot, flag etc. ANYTHING.

That was ridiculous. Amateur hour. For a stakes race for crying out loud. During a pick 4 where they advertise and entice guarantees.

Embarrassing.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The right thing to do is pay a guy to hold a flag at the start of the turn to let the jockeys know a dq has happened. This is what occurs in real sports. A gun shot, flag etc. ANYTHING.

That was ridiculous. Amateur hour. For a stakes race for crying out loud. During a pick 4 where they advertise and entice guarantees.

Embarrassing.

Agreed Coach! And the one thing that people are not mentioning in this whole debacle is the the fact despite rearing up and spotting the field a few lengths is this horse still almost ran second.