Why the NYRA nasal strip ban?

Merlinsky · #1 05-25-2012, 07:56 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...em-oneill-says

It feels like they've given the equivalent of "because we say so" but I'm not seeing the logic. Lasix is okay but nasal strips aren't when the strips reduce risk of bleeding and aren't a form of medication? They ban it in this one jurisdiction because the stewards don't feel like allowing it? The fear of the strips getting wet and coming off doesn't seem to bother any other racing jurisdictions or the International Olympics Committee.

skyfire · #2 05-25-2012, 08:18 PM

Exactly: Everybody can use one, benefits the horse, no unfair, undisclosed advantage.

Danzig · #3 05-25-2012, 09:25 PM

Hell, oaklawn just allowed cheek pieces...
Seems like nyra is always last to allow things.

richard · #4 05-25-2012, 09:28 PM

What are cheek pieces? The nasal strip ban is puzzling.

Danzig · #5 05-25-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by richard

What are cheek pieces? The nasal strip ban is puzzling.

Sheepskin that goes on either side of a bridle....sort of a blinker effect from them. Blocks some peripheral vision but not as much as blinkers.

blackthroatedwind · #6 05-25-2012, 10:15 PM

Let me say something because this is how these things start....the Stewards said he couldn't wear the nasal strip. Not NYRA. One of the Stewards is a NYRA employee. The other two are not.

I don't have an opinion either way. I just thought maybe I could nip this one in the bud. NYRA did not ban the nasal strip.

Bigsmc · #7 05-25-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by richard

What are cheek pieces?

Danzig · #8 05-25-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Let me say something because this is how these things start....the Stewards said he couldn't wear the nasal strip. Not NYRA. One of the Stewards is a NYRA employee. The other two are not.

I don't have an opinion either way. I just thought maybe I could nip this one in the bud. NYRA did not ban the nasal strip.

The article said nyra banned them at the discretion of the stewards.

Merlinsky · #9 05-26-2012, 12:09 AM

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse...cal-board.aspx

Haskin weighs in on the O'Neill suspension and nasal strip ban.

pba1817 · #10 05-26-2012, 12:34 AM

It's like a concerted effort to kill horse racing everywhere right now...

tector · #11 05-26-2012, 12:52 AM

I thought this issue had been put to bed years ago.

Only in NY....

Dahoss · #12 05-26-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

It's like a concerted effort to kill horse racing everywhere right now...

This has been in place since 1999. How exactly is this a concerted effort to kill racing now?

Dahoss · #13 05-26-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tector

I thought this issue had been put to bed years ago.

Only in NY....

It was. It was put to bed in 1999, and I can't recall anyone ever complaining about it before now.

Only on message boards....

Danzig · #14 05-26-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse...cal-board.aspx

Haskin weighs in on the O'Neill suspension and nasal strip ban.

so, what, was cali supposed to not bother with the case since o'neill won the derby? surely you don't think things should be ignored because of the timing? he's a repeat offender, if it gives racing a bad name, perhaps they should re-consider the laxity of rules that allow repeat offenders to keep on doing what they do. does it suck for racing, absolutely. but whose fault is it?

MaTH716 · #15 05-26-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

so, what, was cali supposed to not bother with the case since o'neill won the derby? surely you don't think things should be ignored because of the timing? he's a repeat offender, if it gives racing a bad name, perhaps they should re-consider the laxity of rules that allow repeat offenders to keep on doing what they do. does it suck for racing, absolutely. but whose fault is it?

He's 1000% correct. They couldn't wait another 2 weeks before dishing out the punishment? It was a charge on something that happened 2 years ago for crying out loud. No one is saying make it go away, but it surely didn't have to be addressed before the Belmont.

richard · #16 05-26-2012, 12:42 PM

It seems to me that the arbitrary ban in NY on nasal strips should be lifted now. I am going to write my state senator and ask that the ban be lifted before the Belmont Stakes.

Here's the website for the NYSRB...contact info is on the right
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/

Danzig · #17 05-26-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

He's 1000% correct. They couldn't wait another 2 weeks before dishing out the punishment? It was a charge on something that happened 2 years ago for crying out loud. No one is saying make it go away, but it surely didn't have to be addressed before the Belmont.

It was my understanding that this hearing was already scheduled pre-derby- if thats the case, they shouldnt have changed it just because he won.
Im more concerned that this has dragged on as long as it has.

richard · #18 05-26-2012, 02:14 PM

NY is the only state to ban nasal strips but they allow it for standardbreds. This needs to be cleaned up before the Belmont Stakes.

Dahoss · #19 05-26-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by richard

It seems to me that the arbitrary ban in NY on nasal strips should be lifted now. I am going to write my state senator and ask that the ban be lifted before the Belmont Stakes.

Here's the website for the NYSRB...contact info is on the right
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/

Let us know how the letter goes.

pointman · #20 05-26-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by richard

It seems to me that the arbitrary ban in NY on nasal strips should be lifted now. I am going to write my state senator and ask that the ban be lifted before the Belmont Stakes.

Here's the website for the NYSRB...contact info is on the right
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/

You might want to stick a few grand in the envelope, otherwise your letter is certain to be placed in the circular file.